Sadly, But part of nature, one of the big cape buffalo died yesterday morning early--quite possibly from TB, as I have found out, since it is very prevalent in south Africa !!!!! Evidently the cattle brought it in and now it has gone through the cape buffalo and others--and if you clik on "Forum" at the bottom of the Africam screen, and go to?Africam Streaming Forum--? and below that is??http://www.africam.com/wildlife/forum/16 which is The Watering Hole and clik on it, then go to http://www.africam.com/wildlife/nkorho_wateringhole_chat_tuesday_25_september_2007?(which is "Nkorho Watering Hole Chat) there is a lively discussion that goes on there (with no dissention, arguing or other negativity like on our beloved List) and there are links provided where you can read about the spread of TB amoung the South African mammals--and the high prevalence of it in the Lions there too--since they eat all the buffalo they can-and therefore ingest the bacteria and the TB that is in their victim s.? It is very sad.? The disease has spread quite a bit from what I have read. The discussion on that forum this morning is just fascinating.? I have dial up at home and could not get all this--and I am at work now (with high speed internet) and you got to read the discussion there.? and there are links in the messages there--and some of the listers there have gotten pictures and video of what is happening--Evidently last night there were 6 or more lionesses and jackels and hyenas--as well as the vultures that were dining on? the buffalo carcasse and some kind of a fight and I guess it was raining--or had rained and the lens of the camera was wet and distorted-- oh my gosh--I hear a hyena yelling right now !!? (Realtime) Man is he noisey--cant see him yet but he is probably threatening the vultures off the buff carcasse-- anyway-one of the "zoomies" (camera operators that are in the lodge) actually came out in the "landie"? (Land Rover) and wiped off the camera lens so all could see--right in the middle of the arguement between the lions and the jackels-- you guys got to get in on this duscussion--is soo fascinating.? And to make it dog related--I would love to go there and live--with my GSD---been wanting to go to Africa for 40 years. OHHHHHHHHH--and you can go here and watch the lions leaving the scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ZIZqRW1ec OH MY GOSH--just found this one too--go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zzKGagzKQU ?and you can see a LION and some hyenas fighting--there is about 5 hyenas ganging up on a lioness--talk about EXCITING !!?You watch through the video and the lens is all wet--keep watching--then you hear the Land Rover and someone comes and wipes off the lens (someone with lots of nerve--or something) --all the while the lion and the hyenas are getting into it--I wont tell you any more--THIS IS JUST TOO EXCITING !!? WOW !! Darn--I got to get to work. I'll be back.? I have Africam on my computer most of the day at work.? Just minimize it and keep checking.? I have the sound on low so I can hear what is happening.? (I got a good boss--and he isnt here 75% of the time.? ;-) Check this out !! Here is another youtube video of the lions-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls9YfCuUKzg and at the end they ROAR !!! WOW !! later, Cheri Cheradon ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================