I decided to see what prompted the poll we've been discussing. I went to the web site http://www.katu.com I did a search for "pit bull ban" and came up with nada. I then did a search for "dangerous dogs" and up came the stories. They have a video that is a 2 part story. Part 2 ran last night and they found that 52% to 48% favored banning pit bulls from the US. They listed the GSD as the 3rd most dangerous dog in the US. Number 1 was the Pit Bull and number 2 the Rott. Oregon is considering harsh dog laws that could fine owners of dangerous dogs up to $6000 and a year in jail. Many of the people shown in the video were asking for a ban but were anything but knowledgeable about dogs period. Would I say the story was slanted against dogs...pretty much but not completely. The one thing that jumped out to me was not once did they suggest education in lieu of legislation. The worst thing is that more and more of the "progressive states" are trying to adopt laws as proposed in Oregon. They used the Denver CO and Ontario, Canada outright bans on Pit Bull in both segments. It left a bitter taste in my mouth at best. It also hasn't helped that there seems to have been a rash of attacks lately in various parts of the country. There were 5 in the last month here in N CA and now people are surrendering any pit bull look alike in droves. Of course, that will lead to euthanizing them and the AR's will have new fuel for their fires. I've had better mornings... Paul Visit Rivendell on 'da web' at www.rivendellgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================