"Dallas free"......"Lance free"....."Sundance free"......all just terms for "TOOLS" in someone's breeding program. Each breeder is seeking something different for their lines than you or I am....and some need, or improvement or correction or concern that is often different than our own. These are "tools".......and if someone takes a tool and uses it as a weapon to start fighting over bloodlines and dogs..........well THEY have the problem......not the dog!! It's sad that someone has dogs, & breeds, and yet has time for a silly war.....OVER dogs! Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com From: Angie Martin ". Thank you Susan!!! Hopefully they will get it. Angie Martin From: Erynbrook@xxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: "Dallas Free Lines Subject". OK I have to clarify this so everyone can calm down. This is not the first ime that dog breeders have advertised xxx-free lines. It happens (in any reed) when breeders find that they (collectively) have, over the years, one to one stud dog so often that they number of stud dogs available to them ave diminished significantly. any years ago people advertised Lance-free lines. It certainly was not a egative comment on Lance! It was simply that there were so many breeders ut there with bitches who went back to Lance, often multiple times in 2 or 3 generations. Heck there were in-bred Lance kids out there too. These were ot bad dogs, but the more Lance they had, the more careful a breeder anted to be about breeding back to Lance lines. t the same time there were fewer and fewer stud dogs who had no Lance in heir pedigrees. So owners of stud dogs advertised Lance-free lines to let wners of bitches with heavy Lance know this was a pedigree that might work ith their bitch. gain - this is IMPORTANT - it was NOT A REFLECTION ON THE STUD DOG in uestion. It was simply a way to let people know where there were stud dogs vailable to meet their pedigree requirements. You can't keep going back on he same stud dog forever, no matter who he is or how wonderfully he produced! Susan Casey n a message dated 11/5/2010 1:20:18 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, aris-smith_k9s@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: What all need to know is this whole discussion started because it was ointed out by an individual that her puppy was "Dallas Free" which in turn rought up concern for another individual who actually had a pup with allas ines and was now; due to seeing this post; was worried about her puppy ow. he was concerned that her puppy who unfortunately already has had some edical problems would now be facing more due to "Dallas Lines". With there eing so many new people in this breed who are still trying to learn lines utting this in an ad is going to raise concerns and possibly give the rong pinion about certain dogs and lines because of course the first thing that ops in to a person's head when they read this is "Why" did they put that, s there something wrong in the lines, should I stay away from those lines tc? I myself do not think it is right to put something like that in an dd. If someone is truly interested they will contact the person and ask to ee the pedigree and can see for themselves what dogs are not in their inesnstead of bluntly calling it out like that. JMHO Tammy Paris-Smith ww.noble-spirit-shepherds.com here are some lenghty threads going around about this subject. I currentlyave a post on my Face book page relating to this subject. I welcome all toome join in the conversation if they wish. Here is the web addy ttp://www.facebook.com/notes.php?idW7644872¬es_tab=app_2347471856#!/note php?note_idF1829212617 So much has been said on the subject I did not want to bombard the lists ith all responses and such. You many have to "friend request" not sure? I elcome ALL to participate! Health and happiness am K and her pack ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================