I had replied to this in an earlier post to the list, Sue,(so won't belabor the point) but from what all of us who have been following these bills and legislations have found, the next step is 10 dogs and in one state right now, 3 intact bitches, whether being bred or not. Puppy mills, in AR language is any breeder who breeds. I know that most people don't believe that is true, but if you read the AR blogs and lists (I do, so I can be educated from BOTH sides), believe me, if you are a breeder, you are a puppy mill. (An AR word, coined by ARs, along with much of the other language that is now in general usage) Stormy On Jan 25, 2009, at 12:02:56 PM, "Sue Madlung" <stormygsd@xxxxxxx> wrote: I think the operative words here would be 'commercial breeding" and also refers to breeders owning upwards of 25 breeding animals.. this looks like a good step towards hitting puppy mills.. if you own one or 2 or 5 breeding animals, is having a annual vet exam outside the norm?? I know of breeders who breed animals over and over for their entire lifetime and they never see the inside of a vet clinic.. If puppy millers were at least required to succumb to annual vet checks , then I would expect the animals would be at least kept in a healthy state. -- Stormy Hope carpoc.org GSDCA Member And more clubs ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================