I agree 100%. I gave "sure grow" which is calcium tablets. I finally found a great home for him, one that understood he may or may not come up on his pasterns. He was also a fussy eater. Being the worry wart that they were they took him to the vet and ran every possible test. All came back negative and normal....except he had high level of calcium. So, my feelings that it is a calcium deficiency is bogus. tina Paul opines... Research has come up with a deficiency in manganese, magnesium, and phosphorous...hence the use of Maalox by many whose dogs have DPS. We haven't had DPS for eons even tho our lines are predisposed for it. I believe it is due to a regimen we use in feeding our bitches in whelp. We feed them a raw diet plus a supplement that is complete and does contain significant levels of manganese, magnesium, phosphorous, as well as many other trace minerals, vitamins, proteins, and it even has bovine colostrum. The key is getting it to the puppies eneutero so even if they are predisposed to DPS the supplement strengthens the ligamentation of the pasterns. It does help those puppies that suffer from DPS but not as much as it would if they got it eneutero. Syd and others are right when they say time is the answer, but not the only answer. These conclusions come from many years and many litters. They are not scientific but they are based on experience and a decent knowledge of canine nutrition. Paul ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================