What I would like to know is what do people use to get the smell out of the ground? We have 20 dogs here. When the ground is dry it smells just fine as we have staff cleaning the yard of waste every hour. However, when it rains it is HORRID the smell that comes from the ground! So if you get any ideas that cross over PLEASE share! I use PDZ Stall Freshner. It comes in powder or granules, I prefer the granules. I use it in gravel pens and directly on the grass. It will keep the ground fresh for several weeks, depending on how may dogs, weather, etc. Karen Teplitzky Kaenjae German Shepherds & Obedience Training Ohio Greyhound Placement ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================