Our experience at 4 Paws is that the DNA tests today are pretty darn amazing. In fact recently when we were unsure of which male sired a litter we sent off the DNA as one sire was a Lab and one was a Golden. The Mom was a Lab of European lines (White English Cream) Not only did they tell us the Dam was a European Labrador Retriever, but they also showed the sire as a European Golden Retriever. In another instance they confirmed the Mom of another litter as an American Golden and the Dad as a European Golden. I found this remarkable that they could not only tell the breed but where the dog was from geographically with NOTHING but a blood sample and no information on the dogs at all. I think it depends on who you use. There are a bunch of crazy ones in magazines and such but we use the WISDOM test -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Penny Kroh Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:46 AM To: The List Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: DNA proof of dog breed If this is true, then must it also be true for: Black GSDs Black & tan GSDs Sable GSDs Black & red GSDs Bi-color GSDs Any and all other colors of GSDs? Or is the test flawed as are the DM and Coat tests? VOTE!!!!! Penny in NC The Farm Dog Forever Plum My Guardian So please tell me why AKC-GSDCA and the white GSDs dog breeding keep saying it is in the DNA? Since the AKC has never required proof of parentage by DNA of the parents who really knows for sure. Theresa GSDCA Member ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================