You are correct... it is not a hip problem and can not be diagnosed by exray. Would be so much easier to diagnose if it did show up on extray. Can only be definitely my necropsy. Kay Springer Thank you Kay for posting that Only can be definitely my Necropsy (I know you meant by necropsy ugg to typs) For it honestly irritates me that it is being said that their dog who is still alive has DM when the fact still matters it CANNOT be diagnosed definitely unless a necropsy has been done. NO doctor can give with full certainty a diagnosis of DM because there is yet a test that will 100% diagnose such as. The Vets are only giving an assumption. So dogs being publicly announced as having DM are making other lines possible get a bad rep for something that has yet to be verified. Also dogs should not be announced as passing away due to DM if again that Necropsy was not done. Not fair to the lineage of these dogs. I am not looking for an argument I am just pointing out the facts. So many other ailments replicate DM. JMHO Tammy www.noble-spirit-shepherds.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================