Right, but that is the OFA's data base, fairly new....not the overall incidence for the breed. And to complicate matters, all at risk dogs don't develop DM. And to further complicate matters, the "incidence" for the breed is a pretty fuzzy number since there are dogs "diagnosed' w/o testing, just maybe what a vet thinks it could be.... Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 3/28/2012 10:52:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: Actually, the total is 1,992 GSDs, and yes, the percentages are, as Paula stated, Clear 1014 51% Carrier 637 32% at Risk 341 17% But, looking at all the other breeds listed so far, we are the most dogs tested! Only a few other breeds are even remotely close in animals tested, the Rhodesians, Berners, Pems & Boxers (which have really bad stats, that breed is at 45% at risk & 38% carriers and only 17% clear) I totally agree that it is a tool, let's just hope more and more people will start testing their dogs to get better #'s. This is not that old of a test yet, so I believe the #'s will certainly rise. Chris Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer www.tanbarkgsd.com GrCh. Tanbark's 2MuchBling Joelle Aramist OFA H/E GrCh. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu, RN OFA H/E Ch. Cresther's Blast of Kenlyn, HI, CDX, OFA ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================