The Will Rogers complex in Ft. Worth exists only for the exhibition of animals. the have an equestrian center that has stadium seating. Obedience, rally and agility could be in one of the other buildings, perhaps in the building that the Ft. Worth Kennel Club and the Texas Kennel Club hold their all breed shows. There are plenty of hotels, it is fairly close to the airport. You could herd sheep at End Gate Ranch,in Ferris, TX, which is southeast of Dallas. I live close to Ferris and it takes me a little over an hour to get to Will Rogers. All courses can be run on the property and you could do sheep and ducks. An alternative might be to herd at the Westerman's but their property is north of Denton, close to the TX/OK border. The distance is no problem for most Texans as we can drive over 200 miles on a Sat just running errands and most of the shows we go to require at least a couple of hours driving. The only problem might be in getting the facility during the time w e traditionally have the National. The Exposition Center in Glen Rose, TX is another alternative. It is about 2 hours south of DFW airport. It is an equestrian center with stadium seating. You can rent out the stalls. There is hot & cold water bathing facilities for the dogs. There is room for obedience and rally, maybe agility if it can be held outside under cover. RV's can park on site. The closest herding would still be in Ferris. Nolan River Kennel Club holds it's shows there. The problems are not enough hotel rooms and if you like to drink alcohol you'll have to bring your own because the county is dry. The bar b que is excellent though. Diane --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================