well we just got back from cleveland and we went winners dog the first 3 days to finish our alvin son da vinci's championship,our da vinci is co-owned by marti bell and i think this is her first champion so we are very excited for her.da vinci is ofa'd h&e we would like to thank don smith for adding to da vinci championship he judged the first day he also gave him a 5 pt major reserve at the michigan specialites.also our alvin daughter puppy went winners bitch 2 days out of the 4 from the 9to12 puppy classes,she is going to be a fun one she is co-bred by lou grande,we also went winners bitch under don smith with snickers the best puppy from the national under joan fox ,she is bred by ann scultz,oh yes and alvin son ch coda's miracle in the making went best of breed under don smith we had a great weekend,ALSO JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT CAN HAPPEN AT ALLBREEDS BUT THE GOOD DOGS DO GO UP ALSO . tiffany and joann joelle kennels www.joellegermanshpeherds.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================