Arizona people, keep your eyes and ears open... in fact... EVERYBODY. We need an alert system on which everybody possible would respond. Stormy Begin forwarded message: msn agendas in our rural counties Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:38 am (PST) From Charlotte McGowan: This was forwarded to me. It sounds as though the animal rghts people are using stealth methods to push their MSN agenda in rural areas CM Subject: [AAAVA] msn agendas in our rural counties For those of you sitting on the fence or believing the crap these animal rights whackos up in Yavapai are spewing, this Notice of Attendance for Public Hearing regarding MSN was posted one day in advance of the meeting. They tried to pull the same thing over in Chino Valley as well. If the MSN works so well then why do they feel the need to sneak these private agendas in with virtually no chance of anyone whom might oppose it to attend. After all their supporters clearly are given plenty of advance notice for they show up in large numbers and get virtually no opposition, and they lead our council members to believe that everyone wants it and no one opposes it. The scariest part is they all keep using the Albuquerque MSN as a reference as if it is a wonderful thing supported by all when in reality it is a serious invasion of one's rights and totally non-enforceable. However, when you ask them for the statistics to support its success, they are unable to do so. Yavapai County residents need to be on the ball up there before it becomes illegal for you to pet your dog in public!!! One of the key players up there is a rescue group in Prescott area with a web site all about rescue dogs/shelter dogs, etc etc but nowhere does this key player mention any involvement in the legislative process for animals, yet they were first in line on December 11 at the public hearing to shove MSN down your throat, Residents need to attend the next public hearing with their council members to set them straight on private interest groups and their underhanded tactics and show disgust for their methods. I will guarantee you that the HSUS is sitting on someone's back porch up there and using the same back door to get MSN anywhere in AZ so as to use it as a precedent for the rest of the State one county at a time. Council members need to insist that they produce actual statistics of success vs generic references to laws in other states. Personally I think our Governments should develop specific guidelines and insist they keep accurate records and produce them during sessions as proof to back up making changes to laws/legislation that affect our rights as animal owners. With no one policing these private interest groups with private agendas they have free reign to make it up as they go along and tweak statistics as they see fit to further fuel their agendas. I also would like to see shelters break down their adoption percentages into those that are adopted directly to public vs those that rescue takes into foster. Just because the animal leaves the shelter breathing doesn't necessarily mean it has been placed in a permanent home. Would love to give you those percentages, unfortunately it is not black and white, but some shade of gray, that being my least favorite color. Perhaps Richard Smith, the Deputy Clerk is overworked and needs an Administrative Assistant to help him get this info out in a more timely manner, or perhaps not. Below is the notice, please note the date the notice was given, would be curious to know at what time the notice was posted. NOTICE OF ATTENDANCE OF A COMMUNITY PUBLIC MEETING BY MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF COTTONWOOD Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02, notice is hereby given to the members of the City Council of the City of Cottonwood and to the general public that a quorum of members of the City Council of the City of Cottonwood may be present at a public information meeting being held to present information to the public regarding a mandatory cat and dog spay/neuter ordinance being considered for the City of Cottonwood. No City Council action will be taken at this public information meeting. 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