<< you need to go back and study her relatives and their progeny >> Still not enough..we look back to Horand von Grafrath move to USA from Germany...he was a part or full wolf?? his generation to generation goes far to today....we study his generations having some problems...not only from back to 5th generations... Why are you blaming on top stud dogs? Don't pick or judge on them...judge yourself, not compare with other top stud dogs...Dont baby us...we always learn daily...Are you perfect?? we're been trying to examine the problems...remove them...we know how to do and will do better and will be improved....if you depend on others then you will be confused....will waste of your time and will miss your success... Study yourself!!! same with business as you are serious...WORK HARD as Larraine did through...she helped others, without judging or picking on them...we all love GERMAN SHEPHERD DOGS ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================