[ SHOWGSD-L ] Complaint Driven? Don't you believe it.
- From: "Ginger Cleary" <cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Showgsd-L@Freelists. Org" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:05:26 -0400
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Ginger Cleary
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-----Original Message-----
Spread these accounts far and wide. Our Senators need to know this is what
is happening right now in Texas.
Mr. Levine has for a year been preaching AB 1634 is "complaint driven" this
statement
was also used in Los Angeles at the city council hearing. it was used in
Santa Barbara,
and other California cities to alay fears of MSN legislation.
The following are two cases out of Plano, Texas. Marty, who forwarded them
to me, is
the wife of a Dallas Firefighter I met in Colorado. They are very
reasonable dog owners,
exhibitors. When you read these two stories ---a bit long---but worth it,
remember
what we are being told that MSN is "complaint driven". Don't You Believe
It! . Can this
happen here?
You better believe it.
Is this an invasion of privacy?
No doubt in my mind.
AmI trying to spread fear and uncertainty? You got it!
I'd rather be guitly of scaring the hell out of you than saying nothing. So
brand me as a
fear monger if you like, but when push comes to shove, ---well, you get the
picture.
I have found a lot of indifference at dog shows about AB 1634 as amended.
One ring
steward even argued the bill didn't do anything anymore.
-----Original Message-----
> From: Verjean Lunenschloss
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 2:05 PM
> Subject: Unsettling.. .
>
> Well,
>
> For the first time since being involved in this mess, I AM
> scared. It was brought to my attention that there have been a couple of
> "incidents" IN PLANO already! Both inspections. One was a dear friend
> who
> lives very close to me geographically, as a matter of fact. It was not
> "animal control" but "facilities" (whatever the hell that is...) that came
> unannounced to make an inspection of their house. They informed my friend
> they would forward the pictures and their report to animal control. The
> lady that helps with housework and the dogs unfortunately did not know
> better and let them in. They did a room-to-room inspection and took
> pictures of EVERYTHING. Inside and out. Including photographing an x-pen
> which was protecting a small tree from the sharp teeth of new
> puppies...and
> which they "thought" was a pen FOR the puppies. They took pictures of a
> few puppy poops in the yard, and photographed EVERYTHING in this house.
This
> person breeds a litter or two a year, and they were told they were in
> direct conflict with zoning regulations. ..and that they would have to
move.
This house is immaculate. And these dogs are so well cared for that I
can't
> even imagine there being a complaint, or reason to ever inspect this
> person.
> There's a bit more to this....but I'm just shocked. This was the very day
> after the Dallas vote, by the way.
In addition, a gentleman in that same neighborhood was visited because
there was a
complaint by a neighbor about the gentleman's dog making too much noise.
Never mind
that the man
> doesn't OWN a dog, just a cat. They still insisted on entering the home
and going
> room to room to room and taking pictures of everything. I'm simply in
> shock. It sounds like a simple complaint will trigger a visit. If you
> have intact females, you will most likely be accused of being a breeder
(why
> else would you NEED intact females?) and will be told you are in violation
of
> zoning code and will have to move. I don't know if they'll be just as
> suspect of intact males. Just be careful folks!
>
>
***OT*****Fw: RE: Unsettling.. .UPDATE!! !!
Posted by: "Judy Cerney" cerney.cerney@ verizon.net fltcoatmom
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2008 3:32 am ((PDT))
Folks, this is very bad.... This sounds very illegal to me and hopefully
something can be
done
to stop it, but the fact of how they are doing this and how they are
choosing who, is incredible to say the least. Tell me there is not an
active
plan going on here by animal rights groups???!!! Tell me that passing
stricter animal ordinances are okay???!!! An inch gives a foot.....and
there is a hidden agenda in-between the things on the ordinances that sound
reasonable. For those that have web sites....definitely consider Verjean's
suggestions no matter where you live.
Verjean has given permission to crosspost... .post to friends and all so
they
can be aware. Even if you are not a hobby breeder....if you own a purebred
pup, then this can affect you eventually.
Judy C.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:34 PM
Subject: [Dallasdogordinance s] RE: Unsettling.. .UPDATE!! !!
> Ok folks...
>
> I'm awaiting official word from Plano...but here's what we've been able to
> glean so far. The inspections that have been conducted TO DATE that we
> KNOW
> about, were conducted by "Property Standards", Plano's version of Code
> Compliance. It would appear that they are googling breeders/kennels in
> Plano. They are using your websites against you. Once they have
> identified the breeder/kennel, they are then showing up unannounced to do
> inspections. Basically, they are saying they are there to enforce "code".
> Technically, it "appears" that one may breed ONE "total" litter per year,
> and be considered non-commercial and be "legal". Any more than that...and
> you are considered commercial and cannot breed in a residential area. To
> further complicate matters, even if you fall into the non-commercial
> breeder
> classification, by instruction of the current zoning restrictions, you are
> not allowed to offer merchandise for sale or advertisement in a
> home-business environment. So, technically you could BREED and WHELP ONE
> litter in a 12 month period...but you could not sell the puppies from the
> house, nor could you have potential buyers come to your home to "see" the
> puppies.
>
> I'm awaiting word as to whether these types of "searches" can be protested
> as illegal and whether warrants can be or should be issued before allowing
> someone in your home. Once in, they go from room to room, and the
> photograph EVERYTHING. Then they photograph the entire outside, including
> fencing condition, any waste that hasn't been picked up, food and water
> bowls and bedding/crating. ..inside and OUT! If you have in-house help,
> they
> will be interrogated (and you are only allowed ONE non-resident of the
> home
> "employee") One gentleman, as some of you already know, was inspected,
> not
> on a zoning complaint, but on a noise complaint regarding "his" dog. He
> doesn't even OWN a dog, just a cat, and told Property Standards that, but
> it
> didn't matter, they still searched the entire house and yards, taking
> pictures all the while. And whenever Property Standards inspects a house
> that has animals, they provide a copy of ALL pictures and a copy of their
> report to Animal Services. I would imagine if Animal Services "sees"
> something in the pictures or report that they don't like, then they can
> probably try another inspection, and/or try to seize the animals.
>
> I wanted to let everyone know that we initially thought this was
> "complaint"
> driven, but it appears that isn't ALWAYS so. The noise complaint was
> supposedly called in by a neighbor, but the kennel inspection was simply
> due
> to a google search. No neighbor, no sour grapes, just a simple internet
> search. If you have a website, and you live in Plano, you might want to
> consider disengaging it, and finding a new host site, and changing your
> personal information to read DFW area, or north Texas area, instead of a
> specific address, or city and state.
>
> Please feel free to share. I have included contacts from the three Dallas
> area all-breed clubs, please share with your members, and again, tell them
> to feel free to cross-post. Be afraid, they ARE coming for the breeders.
> And it's quite apparent they don't want home-raised puppies in Plano.
>
> Verjean
>
>
>
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