[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Committee Changes

  • From: f.fasano@xxxxxxx
  • To: shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx, Ginialtman@xxxxxxx, gsd showlist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 02:02:31 +0000

Morgan our Bylaws and the reference to Robert's are approved to get our status- 
I know other non-profits operate under Robert's too- do you have a case or the 
IRS Section #-Kris
-------------- Original message from MORGAN LEWIS <shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx>: 
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> Ginny, 
> 
> the statutes of the 501C document would take president over ALL else. If 
> there is a statue in the 501C code for the removal of officers, you would 
> HAVE 
> TO follow those rules no matter what the Bylaws, Roberts or State statutes 
> say, 
> or else you loose your exemption. Morgan 
> 
> 
> Ginialtman@xxxxxxx wrote: 
> 
> The laws in the state in which the organization is incorporated come first. 
> Then the bylaws, then Special Rules of Order (and I'm not sure that we have 
> any of those that apply in this situation-- we have some that apply to 
> conduct in a conference call meeting and those that apply to voting for 
> judges 
> for 
> the National Specialty and perhaps some others that cannot be changed except 
> by previous notice and 2/3 vote) but most of our P&P manual has to do with 
> administrative things --not with "Rules of Order" --so after Special Rules of 
> Order comes Roberts Rules of Order --then "standing rules" which are things 
> that can be changed by majority vote at any meeting -- So Laws come first --- 
> Ginny Altman 
> 
> In a message dated 9/17/2007 12:49:21 PM Central Daylight Time, 
> pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: 
> Stormy is correct in her reference to what RRONR states...BUT...if the 
> By-Laws or P^P state only in case of a tie...I believe they take 
> precedence. 
> 
> What I WOULD like to know if I am correct in thinking that so long as the 
> By-Laws and P&P don't contradict State law, they would be the first 
> reference...RRONR next, and only then do we refer to the actual laws of the 
> State. However, when actions are taken that conflict with any or all of 
> these, and actually become illegal according to the law of the state, it's 
> all moot, is it not? I guess what I'm asking is "what is the order in 
> which 
> we must proceed...because we have to do it backwards, do we not?" 
> 
> First, we must follow the by-laws and the P&P. 
> If something isn't covered there, then we refer to RRONR. 
> And, as a LAST resort, if no one is able to find out from the above 
> materials just what the correct procedure is, then we must resort to the 
> law of the land (state, country, whatever)............... 
> 
> Is there an intelligent person who knows the answer to this? 
> 
> Ginny Altman 
> 
> "Please let me be as kind, intelligent, and wonderful as my dog thinks I 
> am." 
> 
> 
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