Personally "cheap champion" has a whole other meaning for me. Yancy finished in four shows after I bought him. Definitely cheap for me!! Ch Coree - the Wreckin' Crew's mom, finished in four weekends with breed wins over top specials. Again, a cheap champion. Ch Coal took 13 points/1 major in four weekends. Then we had to wait for a major - took 3 months to find one. I'd call him a cheap champion too! To me, cheap champion means they finish fast with relatively little expense. At least thats the definition used by all the ole' timers I've been around. RIGHT FRED???? <eg> -- Suzanne www.tsalishepherds.com Home of Ch Firedog, Ch Cookie, Ch Flair, BIS/BISS Ch Yancy, Ch Flash, and Lil' Miss Dancer!! Website updated 11/04 -------------- Original message -------------- > I always think that the better the dog the quicker the finish. A cheap dog > would > be a very good dog in my book > Terry > PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx wrote: > In a message dated 3/23/2005 12:03:09 PM Central Standard Time, > dlauffer@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > . I personally know someone who bought a 'specialty puppy' from a breeder > > who co-owns and this person CAN NOT show in an all breed ring, per the > > breeders contract. I have been told that it is more prestigious to finish > > from > the > > specialty ring. I wonder about that. The CH in front of my boys name > > doesn't indicate which ring it came from. > > > > Our first Ch. finished at all-breeds...I overheard a conversation about him > at a show and these fellow exhibitors considered him a "cheap" champion, > because all of his pts were from the all-breed ring. I'd like to know when > the > term "all-breed" is used does it include all-breed shows that have specialty > judges or knowledgeable GSD all around judges.....if so...then our Futurity > Victrix, and our 2 select bitches ALL finished at All-breeds. Personally > all-breed > or specialty wins are fine with us....points are points and we would be > thrilled either way. > > Patty Szymczak > www.pagairsgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================