In a message dated 3/23/2005 10:59:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx writes: judges or knowledgeable GSD all around judges.....if so...then our Futurity Victrix, and our 2 select bitches ALL finished at All-breeds. Personally all-breed or specialty wins are fine with us....points are points and we would be thrilled either way. ************************************************* Very well said and personally I think anyone that has one that can win points in both rings should be proud and not sorry. I had a "specialty" person tell me that all breed points don't count! Talk about elitism! Syd SYD MAILBERG 425-432-4144 NEW FRIESIAN PAINTING ON WEBSITE 23910 SE 276TH ST MAPLE VALLEY, WA 98038 _http://www.kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com_ (http://kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================