[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Clubs~ WHITE DOGS & other colors....
- From: "arycrest@xxxxxxxxxxx" <arycrest@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: marhaven@xxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:52:22 GMT
There are two points in this message I'd like to address.
1. "The problem with allowing whites is what some "breeders" might experiment
with to try
to come up with a new color that would be rare and therefore.......witness the
"PANDA"
Shepherds now. ..............."show me the money". <G>
This is why I think it should remain a disqualifying fault. "
If during the past 107 years, the fanciers of the white coated GSD have not
tried to come up with new and rare colors, what makes you think they'd do so if
the color were allowed back in the conformation ring? This is like saying that
since the breeder who developed the so called "Panda Shepherd" also breeds
colored GSDs, that all colored GSDs should be DQ'ed.
2. "Normally breeders of white dogs are just as elitist as we are with our
Standard dogs are
considered to be, and have absolutely no reason or interest in joining our
Clubs. "
I can't speak for the local GSD clubs, but many fanciers of the white coated
GSD are members of the parent club. In fact, in April the three national U. S.
clubs dedicated to the white coated GSD addressed the BOD. Two of the three
clubs are proud of the rich heritage of the GSD and want their dogs to remain
as members of the GSD breed despite the conformation DQ. They also support the
PC. Only one club is seeking breed separation.
Gayle & the Hooligans!
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=6&uid=4294023 - Link to The
Hooligans Albums
-- "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I vaguely remember when this change to the Standard was made and I recall it
was a difficult
decision for the Parent Club. I would hate to see it go through that again.
I'm sure it was
discussed and agonized over at length for whatever reason. I agree with the
decision.
I hope we don't get into changing the Standard at the whim of a preference of
colors.
The problem with allowing whites is what some "breeders" might experiment with
to try
to come up with a new color that would be rare and therefore.......witness the
"PANDA"
Shepherds now. ..............."show me the money". <G>
This is why I think it should remain a disqualifying fault. It it were
not....we would always have
someone 'playing with colors' and we dont want to be a color category Breed.
Also I do
think there is a DEFINITE difference between undesirable, a fault and a
disqualifying fault.
Normally breeders of white dogs are just as elitist as we are with our Standard
dogs are
considered to be, and have absolutely no reason or interest in joining our
Clubs. Your
occasional pet owner is different and should become a member to learn.
If there were an influx of white breeders joining a Club that adhered to the
GSD Standard as
it is ..........I would have to wonder why? <G> Would you as a breeders
that are trying to
conform to our Standard as closely as possible be interested in giving your
time and efforts
and money at meetings of a club for white dogs while working to promote their
shows???
Think about it.........<G>
There are three different Clubs for white GSD now......with three different
names. They are
breeders that love their white dogs .....and yet they all three disagree in
some aspects.
I doubt a good breeder of whites would have the interest or time for our
"Standard" Clubs.
JMO
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
In a message dated 8/24/2006 11:07:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Gsdbroon@xxxxxxx writes:
The main thrust for disqualification came from breeders' irritation at
seeing classified
ads in Dog World advertising German Shepherd Dog "Rare Whites".
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This is a sad reason to disqualify White dogs. When I got my first German
Shepherd (as an adult) whom many of you will remember, my wonderful Ben, I
wanted a Black. The only thing I knew about GSDs was that when I was born in
Frankfurt Germany, my parents bought a Black German Shepherd. Moonco was with
me
the first 8 years of my life. After that my parents went to other breeds.
When
I got Ben I answered an ad in a local paper advertising (you may have
guessed) RARE Black GSDs lol lol Of course I didn't know better. I guess it
was a
good thing because there was no finer dog! However, we would not disqualify
Blacks because there are those advertising them as rare. I would hazard a
guess that this is true even if it was in a major magazine. There have
always
been those who prey on others who are lacking in knowledge and always will
be.
After all a person who did not want to adopt one of the dogs we dropped from
our program because she wanted a purebred dog - went to a pet shop and paid
$1,300 for a Labradoodle.
I think we should revisit colors in our dogs in the standard. I may be wrong
as I am far from an expert but I think I recall from a previous time this
subject came up on da list that the White dogs and dilutes were considered
undesirable because originally in Germany it was decided that they were weak
in
character. Of course, they are not truly weak in character because of a color
and color has nothing to do with who the GSD is. My Blue male has a gorgeous
color and I would LOVE to have and show a dog of his color! Not my Jager lol
as with most rescue dogs he is definitely not a show dog <<<grin>>> but he
is
most certainly STRONG in character LOL
I do believe in Canada the White dogs and Dilute dogs like my Blue can show.
Is this true and have they always allowed the lighter colors? If they did
not allow them at one time and now do then perhaps there is hope that in the
future the standard in the USA will change yet again and allow them to show!
I
think that would be a good thing but that is just my opinion.
Karen Shirk, Executive Director 4 Paws For Ability, Inc.
253 Dayton Ave Xenia, Ohio 45385
937-374-0385 Office 937-768-9098 Cell
_www.4pawsforability.org_ (http://www.4pawsforability.org/) karen4p
aws@xxxxxxx
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