I've had nothing but bad experiences, and I'm suspicious of everyone, especially myself. Both recent and long-term history suggest that Board members DON'T always have "the good of the club at heart", or at the very least, their vision of what constitutes that good is at odds with that of the membership. Are people being ''suspicious" when they want to observe the behavior and decisions of their elected representatives and the processes of the BOD? I'd say they're being active, involved club members. Again, it's called open democracy. Board members are elected, they're not enthroned.They should SEEK input and observation. I have tremendous respect for good Board members and gratitude for all that they do. I also think that the good ones would be more than happy to openly conduct business on camera. Why wouldn't they? tom elkins ----- Original Message ----- From: Doris E To: Tom Elkins Cc: VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Club business Tom Elkins wrote: I couldn't disagree more. You've both summarized the secretive, close-doored mindset that inevitably gets organizations into trouble. In the past some GSDA Board members imagined that they had become some higher form of life once they were elected, and that they weren't representing anything or anyone beyond their own personal agendas.I agree that we don't need to be looking over their shoulders. Far better that we be sitting next to them and watching every move that they make. They're supposed to REPRESENT the membership, not dictate to them like latter day Royal Lords and Ladies.Live streaming of the meetings is a GREAT idea. A Board meeting ISN'T "like any other business meeting". I agree that people "act differently when they know a camera is trained on them". Indeed. They tend to be less likely to get involved in shadey shenanigans when they know they're being watched. They also tend to be more responsive to the people who put them there by voting for them when they know that their words and actions are available for all to see. It's called open democracy.It's a very good thing. It's time to let the sunshine in. tom elkins Then why is a Board of Directors necessary? I have never felt dictated to, and have always been able to have any questions answered in a timely way. Why are you so suspicious of a group of people who has the good of the club at heart?? I guess you have had some bad experiences?? Doris E, who prefers to trust people to do their job. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================