Axel was what used to be called a Grey. That is how Bill and Erna referred to him. I would think maybe now we would call him a Dark Sable or a Black Sable. Very beautiful pigment from what I got from the McCoys. Ernie Loeb made a lot of Michiganders happy at that National. GV and GVx were Michiganders, as was the Futurity Victor. It was a bit before my time, but, I was sort of mentored by my friends, Bill and Erna McCoy and, of course, by Grant Mann. These are 3 people whom I sorely miss. I know that they would be so proud of what Harley and I have accomplished. They were so very supportive, open, and honest. I also was fairly well acquainted with Walter Babcock, whose beautiful Robin of Kingscroft was GVx that same year. He told the story of how it was so hard to keep Robin in coat. That year he kept her kenneled in his cool, cement Michigan basement all the hot summer days. She went out to play and exercise only around midnight each night. Guess it worked out very well for her, and for him!! So many memories in this sport, eh? Paula, 243 days and counting Home of 2012 GSDCA Dual Title EXCELLENT Award Recipient, 2 Time AKC JAM/AOE, International Champion, Canadian Champion, & American Silver Grand Champion, Asgard Harley Davidson, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Original Version), 1st male GSD Grand Champion. 2010 #1 GSD in California, Lifetime #1 GSD in Michigan, 2010 #1 GSD male in USA (AKC GCH Stats), 2011 Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show Invitee, Lifetime AKC Eukanuba Invitee. 2 Time Cruft's Invitee. ---------- Original Message ---------- Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 10:26:56 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Neiman <bnbgsds2000@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Close sable Wasn't. GV Axel vom Poldihaus a sable? Bob Neiman ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================