Stormy, Yes, you are right...I just had a dream that maybe we could use them for once and not them using us. Probably NEVER could happen. Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx To: epeningt@xxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Click I try to stay away from these type discussions, but need to state my piece here. Ellen, that would be perfect, IF animal welfare and animal rights people had the same end agenda. However, the Animal Rights people have duped soooo many people into thinking they are for the animals,when their GOAL is the END of owned animals. (Wayne Pacelle, one generation and out), etc.,etc. ad nauseum . I have PAGES of their verified quotes. So those that believe HSUS and like groups are "for" the better treatment of animals, they continue to donate and build the multi-billion dollar treasury that is being used to take away our 'rights' to our animals. (without spending any money on the CARE of animals.) Not just dogs, not just cats, but any "owned' animal, any harvested animal, any researched animal and on. Animal 'welfare' groups are diverse group ,and in California now, we are JUST beginning to see how we need to work with and support each other. The 'rescues', the Guide dogs,the ARson dogs, The hunting, and stock dogs, AND the show dogs. along with the Cat breeders, the Feral Cat protectors, etc., etc. WE have been going merrily on our way looking at our right to breed show dogs, without broadening our vision to see what has been eroding that right. K...i'm through. next? Stormy In a message dated 5/17/07 9:03:32 PM, epeningt@xxxxxxxxxx writes: If all the animal welfare and animal rights (I had a hard time saying that) groups got together and ran TV ads on how responsible pet owners should treat their animals...I think it would do more good than anyone could imagine. ~~~~~~~~ Stormy Hope California Federation of Dog Clubs www.cfodconline.org S.P. Region GSDCA RALEEF Representative ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================