Carolyn, just posted it... It is in the Letter from Melanie Fuellgraf Theresa Carolyn wrote: Maybe some have missed some of this that has already been posted. So I have pasted a post from Melanie Fuellgraff....AWSA....and a letter from Hartmut Setecki, Managing Director in the S.V... AND..... the letter from A.K.C. that has been on file for some time regarding allowing the AWSA to separate from the GSDCA. I hope most of you will take the time to read all three. Since this time AKC has changed their "policy"....but they and we still have these letters on file and it seems to me it would be easy enough for the Board to see if they would still honor this letter from James Crowley. AKC "works in mysterious ways"....<G> and just might 'Grandfather this in'. We won't know if we don't ask. WHY weren't those who want to separate "heard"...petition and all? Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ---Original Message----- On Behalf Of Melanie Fuellgraf Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:24 PM Subject:The White Shepherd Club It is the American White Shepherd Association (AWSA) that seeks to establish the White Shepherd as a distinct breed within AKC. It is AWSA that is seeking a letter, as requested by AKC Foundation Stock Service Program (FSS)from the GSDCA that it will not object to the establishment of the White Shepherd (White Swiss Shepherd/Berger Blanc Suisse) as a new breed within the AKC FSS. It was AWSA who distributed a petition to the GSDCA membership, receiving 368 signatures, requesting that the GSDCA Board draft a letter to the AKC stating that the GSDCA would not object to the establishment of the White Shepherd as a new breed within the AKC FSS program. It was AWSA, who presented the petition to the GSDCA Board, and who received a vote from the GSDCA Board to draft the letter to the AKC, only to have the vote rescinded by an emergency Board meeting. It was AWSA who requested the GSDCA Board to bring this item to a membership Vote, only to have the board decide to not entertain the petition. (keep in mind, this was more than enough signatures to have an item brought to a membership vote if the subject of the petition was in regard to a standard change or a change to the by-laws. Any other subject at the discretion of the board if it chooses to entertain the petition or not) It was AWSA, at the request of the GSDCA Board, who contacted the SV to ask for their opinion regarding the GSDCA drafting a letter to the AKC regarding the establishment of the White Shepherd as a distinct breed within the AKC. It was AWSA who received the response from the SV, stating: *"Given the above facts, we therefore see no reason that would speak against the introduction of the race, "White Swiss Shepherd/Berger Blanc Suisse" in the AKC." It was AWSA who requested the GSDCA Board, as stewards of the AKC GSD breed, to object to AKC registering imported Berger Blanc Suisse dogs as AKC German Shepherd Dogs. How can the GSDCA allow dogs of a different FCI breed to be registered as German Shepherd Dogs? It was AWSA who contacted the GSDCA to request a correction to the January 2012 Board meeting minutes to include the omission of this request to the Board. It is AWSA who will continue to seek breed recognition for the White Shepherd (White Swiss Shepherd/Berger Blanc Suisse) within the AKC. As a member of both the GSDCA and AWSA, I ask all of you two things. 1. Why will the GSDCA Board not permit the membership to vote on the separate issue of not objectingto the establishment of the White Shepherd (White Swiss Shepherd/Berger Blanc Suisse) as a distinct breed within the AKC FSS? 2. Does it not bother you that dogs of a different breed are being permitted to be registered as AKC German Shepherd Dogs? Thank you, Melanie Fuellgraf ( AKC letter below ) ( note: NO changes to our Standard! ) *************************************************** ******************************************************** April 21, 2005 Mr. James Crowley April 21, 2005 The American Kennel Club New York, NY (212) 696-8234 – direct number jxc@xxxxxxx The following points have been approved as the basis for establishing the new breed of White Shepherd or Berger Blanc Suisse here in the United States. 1. The GSDCA should write a letter stating that they would not protest the AKC establishing the White Shepherd as a separate breed with the Foundation Stock Service program. 1. The GSDCA would not need to change their breed standard in any way. The color white would remain a disqualification to the GSD breed. 1. After this letter is submitted “ the White Shepherd Parent Club (AWSA), the AKC and the GSDCA (if they so desire) would be responsible for setting the guidelines in establishing the new breed. Logistics could be: 1. Name 2. All registry requirements 3. The possibility of the white coated GSD that is three generations white/white, and if the owner so desires, to be registered with the new breed. 4. The possibility if there are owners who wish to remain in the GSD breed with their white coated dogs, it could be permissible for them to do so. If at any point, the GSDCA would like to contact me personally. I would be more than happy to discuss these points with them. Sincerely, James Crowley AKC Secretary ****************************************************************** -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/14/13, Joan Fox <campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Clarification please To: "German Shepherd" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "janandmort@xxxxxxxxx" <janandmort@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 7:57 PM The Board has been petitioned for many years to eliminate the DQ by GSDCA members who have the white dog. In turn the Board represents ALL of its members and must address the issue which it has in its fiduciary responsibility to do so. I think my synopsis is correct-- if not then I stand corrected When and where did this Board or any Board in the last 1 years receive a petition on the matter of the whites? There was one petition that the Board at that time chose not to hear but the exact subject escapes me at this time. I will look it up in the minutes when I get time. Joan Joan F. 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