Dear Linda Bravo...it's too bad the new comers and the ones who have been in the breed for only a short period of time and think they know enough to judge...pity them and the bills they pay for their glass houses, for they have many years to go and mountains to climb to accomplish what this man has, personally from my glass house, I can't condemn. For I too have made bad decisions, broken rules and have been called to the table on them and he was one good person who stuck up for me; but then again he has known me since I was in diapers. That's what I call longevity in the breed. Leslie Dancosse -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Falkrigia@xxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:10 PM To: wernersommers@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Carmen gone - How quickly we forget......... .........all the things that this man did for the GSd, for dogs in general, for the GSDCA. .........how hard he fought against BSL and how much of the good legislation he actually drafted for municipalities over the years. .........how much he worked to get Working Dogs accepted by the AKC .........the efforts it took to push the idea of Back-to-back specialties through AKC .........his assistance in getting all-breed performance events approved at specialty shows so that GSD clubs could actually afford to offer obedience and rally. ........This is to mention just a few. I find it very sad that so many seem to be rejoicing in the downfall of a man who dedicated most of his life to this breed. He definitely messed up and for those who have wanted to 'get him' for years, the party's on I'm sure but the newcomers on the list who want to help kick this man while he's down..........if you do half as much for this breed and this club during your time in dogs, you'll eventually have an understanding of what a sad day this truly is in the history of our breed. It is NOT something to be rejoicing over. It is truly a sad, sad day to lose someone from a position of influence who did so much good for so long even though it may be by his own failings at this time. I think some dignity and reserve would be good things to use in handling this regardless of personal feelings. lynda Check out our websites for constantly updated info and pictures www.falkrigiashepherds.com www.thecraftywoodchuck.com ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================