My thoughts exactly. My main issue is seeing that Hunte does not become a mamber. I can forgive people of mistakes when they prove themselves worthy of forgiveness. I have no doubt that Carmen will do that in the future. Like Stormy, I am more concerned about the ability to own, show and breed my dogs than I am about Carmen's future. I believe he will survive this. But, will we? Let's put our energy toward the more important issue at hand. We need to work together to defeat AB1634. If it happens here, it will happen everywhere. Don't think you are going to be exempt because you live in Podunk, whatever. JMHO Laura Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx To: ELG440@xxxxxxx; ruready8336@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 9:48 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Carmen Battaglia, an opinion Well, Mike, it is personal, of course. :-) I have been on this list since shortly after its inception..give or take a year or so. I have seen so many positive aspects of the list that I couldn't conceive of dropping it...ever. I won't go into what I've learned, or the great people I have "internet" met...been there, done that. Many of the same names posting? Yep. You get that in ANY list. And _many_ times, it is the passionate, caring people who take the time to post, to H*** with the consequences. On THIS list, I see passionate posters on both sides. If you are only looking at one side, it's hard to glance over at the other side, no? When the dissenters choose not to post, is it not _their_ decision not to do so? In any cause? In any discussion? I have just as often been on an unfavored side of a discussion, and felt no compunction about hold back my thoughts. What's going to happen? Come through the internet into my little trailer and get me? (I'm remembering the 'dog doesn't run on his tail" discussion) I am more interested right now that Andrew Hunte does not get voted in as a member of the GSDCA. There will be time to see where Carmen stands for the GSDCA. And yes, I have always been an admirer of Carmen Battaglia, and No, he did not do what I considered proper for the GSDCA members regarding Hunte and Petland. But that's MY thoughts and my right to say so. Please continue posting your ideas. I don't know how to crawl through the computer and 'get ya" :-) Besides, I'm up to my proverbial **** working to defeat AB1634 in California right now, and trying to convince all the clubs to join CFoDC to have a united front against like legislation popping up like ticks all over California. Yes, tick. Sucking the lifeblood of the dog owners resolution to enjoy and own dogs. Storm In a message dated 4/21/07 10:18:17 AM, ruready8336@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > Nothing personal, but,I have been on this list for two years, and it has > been the thorn in my side, many times I might add, as to whether or not I > joined the GSDCA. 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