I believe you are quite right, Penny ! Carolyn ________________________________ From: Penny & Bill <ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Sara Minsk <ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx> Cc: The List <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 12:03 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Can't help them all I AM DONE. YOU DON'T WANT TO LEARN NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY. I REPEAT: THERE IS ONE BREED STANDARD. I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT PETS (except to use the pet that I bought as an example.) THIS A CONFORMATION LIST. IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT PETS OR OTHER THINGS, I AM SURE OTHER LISTS WOULD LOVE HAVING YOU. DOES IT MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER BASHING THE SHOW RING? SORRY--DON'T ANSWER THAT. I DON'T CARE. Penny in NC The Farm Dog Member GSDCA since 1981 On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Sara Minsk wrote: > So, a german shepherd is "pet quality" if it can't finish in the AKC > ring? That means it is not breed standard, correct? I am just > trying to clarify for myself...... > Thus, it would seem, the show ring, and only the show ring, is what > determines correct breed standard? Is this correct? > Is the show ring ever wrong? Has the show ring ever selected for > things that are not necessary to correct breed standard? I am just > wondering. > It seems that any standard is subject to interpretation and how that > interpretation is utilized would determine the type of animal that > would result. But, please correct me, constructively, if I am > incorrect. > Sara > On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Penny & Bill wrote: > >> Oh boy, here we go again. But as >> I began to show in obedience and breed, I learned and could tell the >> difference between the PET I bought and the correct dogs I was seeing >> in the breed and obedience rings. I read every book I could get my >> hands on, talked to anyone who would talk to me; more importantly, I >> listened. As a newbie, I wasn't accusatory, demanding or unkind. I >> didn't have a chip on my shoulder because I had bought a pet. I >> learned from it! >> Now it's off to VA Beach, where there are a couple of specialty shows >> this weekend. Yahoo! >> Penny in NC >> The Farm Dog ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org ; SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ÿÿ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================