On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Sara Minsk <ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx> wrote: > So, a german shepherd is "pet quality" if it can't finish in the AKC ring? > That means it is not breed standard, correct? I am just trying to clarify > for myself...... Nope! Several years ago I had a male GSD from American and German show lines. Got his UKC Ch in one weekend, owner handled. Got a handful of reserves on him in Canada when he was a puppy, owner-handled, so when he was 2 I hired an all-breed handler who finished him in 4 shows and then got 3 BOB, a Group 3, and a Group 1 on him. At that time he had been shown in AKC shows a bunch of times and had a handful of reserves but no points. I did find that a bit funny, he was a Group Winner in Canada (handled by an all-breed handler from the US) and had zero points down here. Did get 4 AKC points on him eventually, 2 of the points I put on him myself....his last show he got a point and BOB, and we actually got pulled in the group! By then he was 7 and I decided to call it a day. Not an AKC Ch, but definitely not "pet quality." --Regina 3 GSDs in Somerset, NJ remembering Canadian and UKC Ch Logan Am/Can UD SchH1 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================