I don't think so lol. Sally, as an accomplished breeder and judge is going to put beautiful structure on the dogs who adorn her wares:)))) There have been plenty of folks who have responded over the past few days w/ multi <advanced> titles confirmation dogs <Julie, Linda responded (as well as a few others, didn't read every post, sorry>, Laurie w/ her OTCHs was mentioned and for goodness sakes Jane Jeter and Suzie Kinman certainly did their part.) Who can forget the pretty AND correct imports Wynn used to have and oh yeah, I think that guy who used to show Dallas finished a whole bunch for Wynn too <VBG>. Talk about titles... This reminds me of a few of the border collie performance people...let's not go down that road thinking the butt ugly gene is somehow linked to a working gene. It isn't. If somebody likes dogs w/ straight fronts, no rear etc. etc., hey, not my cup of tea but more power to them. Enjoy the heck out of the dogs. I celebrate that they are out working their dog and forming a wonderful bond. But please don't make the argument dogs bred to the standard who happen to be pretty can't work or even go so far as to say that square dogs hold up better. That's just silly. It's even sillier on a show list lol. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 12/9/2011 10:53:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: In a message dated 12/8/11 4:46:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx writes: *The number of performance people who shop does not justify the work that goes into everything.* The number of performance people who shop would probably increase if there was merchandise that portrayed the kind of dog they have. Would you not think that if Sally were at a Performance National, she might do Performance Style dogs on her shirts? I guess the venue will dictate the items for sale, but the standard should control what a German shepherd should look like. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================