As a long time (life) member of my local club, the GSDC of Manitoba, Inc. I have been involved at the board level for many years, and have been the Show Secretary for probably a total of 6 or 7 years during that time of over 22 years. The GSDC Manitoba is an affiliate of the GSDC Canada, holding a GSDC Canada regional specialty in conjunction with our own local specialty, as well as hosting the Central Region Futurity/Maturity each year. I think (and hope) that the GSDC Manitoba is considered a reputable and credible club in the GSD world, and we always attempt to put on a well-run and classy weekend for our exhibitors, judges and spectators. That said, I just cannot abide by a parent club who condones and allows an unentered dog competing (for whatever reason, if the dog is not entered correctly BY MAY 1 OF EACH YEAR, IT DON'T GO!) by way of VOTING RINGSIDE. What is that? Then, to do a 180 flip and disregard the win? Who on earth decided to VOTE on a dog competing in the first place? Then vote because of pressure to disallow it? What is this, a club of clowns? If something like this happened in my region, it would have ended before it started, and I know I, and the members of the GSDC Manitoba would not have allowed it, and no amount of pressure from exhibitors, committees or parent club board members would have changed that. Not only should a show committee and a dog club be prepared to stand by some kind of ethics and protocol, it should be prepared to enforce them. Obviously the ethics and protocol of the GSDCC is in question, and those allowing such inane things to occur should be removed. Episodes such as this just make a farce out of a dog show system that's already in question at times, and in some places on the brink of extinction. Having dealt with numerous faux pas and outright stupidity concerning some of the parent club antics over the years, this incident really doesn't surprise me, but it does shame me. Sincerely Jill Dickin Secretary, GSDC Manitoba (and proud of that, at least) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================