[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: COATS

  • From: carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, BonJenShepherds@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:31:13 -0700 (PDT)

      You will seldom, if ever, see a long coat that is of correct texture and
  water resistant.  However, coat is the absolutely easiest fault to eliminate.
  Further, there seems to be a genetic link ( not a scientist, so I hope this 
is 
  the correct term) involving coat and shoulder angulation.  In litters with
  coats and normal coats, the coats seem to have the best shoulders.  If
  I were younger and still interested in breeding, I would find the best coated
  bitch I could for my breeding program. The coat can be eliminated in one
  generation, the shoulder .........
              Carolyn
  
pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:  Next time I'll be absolutely certain to say missing 
premolars.  Then 
you will understand that it is most definitely up to the judge to 
decide which faults, other than those listed as serious, are more 
serious than others.  

If you have a coat who can give you more in your breeding program 
than another animal, then you can use it to breed from.  And, as half 
a dozen people have already said, there is nothing to prevent you 
from showing it, just as you can show a dog with missing premolars.
People already show dogs with serious faults, and some of them win.  
So long as it is not a DQ you are free to show it and a judge is free 
to put it up.  Judges are also free to put up dogs with SERIOUS 
faults....it is all a matter of discretion.  And for that matter, 
dogs with missing molars can and do finish.  Dogs that bite finish 
and can get selects, too.  

Joan had it right when she said she'd rather start with a good coat 
than a dog with bad temperament.  It is ALL discretionary.

Peggy>  
 
> 
>   Well that's just sad. Coat length is a fault but NOT a serious  fault like 
> missing teeth other then premolars are. Missing teeth are listed  in the 
> standard as SERIOUS faults. It's not up to the judge to weigh  the 
> seriousness of 
> faults when the standard says otherwise. 
>   From the standard.."Length of coat is that the ideal dog  has a double coat 
> of medium length". Much like where is says desired  height but we just over 
> look that all that time don't we? 
>    Of course if one were to judge a long coat one would have  to check the 
> quality of the coat, it couldn't be an open coat or a soft coat or  a faulty 
> coat. There are long coated GSD's that have correct double coats, they  are 
> just 
> too long & these are the ones who I would like to seen shown more  often. 
>  
> Bonnie Jenkins
> BonJen Shepherds
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