[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: COATS
- From: pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx
- To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, BonJenShepherds@xxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:16:38 -0400
I don't understand the desire to finish a coat. As it is, there is
nothing to prevent anyone from showing a coat, just as anyone can
show a dog with a missing tooth or two. These things are faults, not
DQs. How much weight a judge assigns to the fault is up to the
judge...and if most judges penalize either of those faults enough,
the dogs won't finish. Granted, more dogs with missing teeth will
finish than dogs with coats...but still, there is nothing to prevent
anyone from showing a coated dog.
I have to ask, tho --why would you want to finish a coat anyway?
This is a fault you can't hide...AND if it's a true coat, it is more
than a cosmetic thing...most coats are soft and some are soft and
pily. Coats like this are a PITA to working dogs who have to be out
in any weather. There is a reason why we have faults in
Standards...most have to do with the dog's usefulness. With coats,
it isn't a question solely of length...it's texture and depth...and a
soft coat is a big disadvantage to a working dog. Now, if you want a
pet dog class, that's a different thing...and then you'll probably
still have to describe the coat, and allow length but not soft
texture and/or deep pile.
There are enough dogs around with faults that I don't see why we'd
want to encourage showing more of them.
Peggy
> In a message dated 10/11/2007 2:05:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> arelee_1020@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> Long coats are not disallowed in the breed ring. Unless the GSD Standard
> changed while I was sleeping. Long coats are not a disqualifying fault.
>
> I have seen judges place coated dogs
> Right, they are "allowed" in the since that they won't be kicked out & you
> can use them to build points for someone else to win. It's just minor fault
> but because of it so obvious a fault its causing these long coats to be
> placed as pets when they could offer the breed so much. It's hard enough
> these
> days to finish a reg. coated GSD much less one with a fault that is so plain
> to
> see, no matter how minor it is considered on paper.
>
>
> <<<I don't recall the show, the judge, or the animal, as it was years ago,
> but
> I have seen judges place long coats. And I am not speaking of one isolated
> incident>>>
>
>
> Who is going to drag a long coat around the country (and pay handlers) with
> the hopes that it might PLACE someday (if the stars are aligned & all is
> right with the world<vbg>)? Do any of you guys out there remember seeing
> long
> coats finish from the specialty ring? If they had their own classes within
> our
> breed they could finish, not just occasionally maybe place under the right
> judge someday (if there isn't something better there).
>
>
> Bonnie Jenkins
> BonJen Shepherds
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