Evan, I know you have stood near when someone DAST bring a German dog into an AKC ring...whispers, nastiness, some outright to the owners...taunts, laughter......and who is spreading ill will? I have witness unspeakable lack of class and ugliness perpetrated against owners of German dogs that would DARE breech our rings. One instance that springs to mind was the abbhorent treatment of a group of owners of German dogs that helped make a BIG major at one of our specialties at Kramer Park....they were treated rudely, and out loud to boot. One "venerable " person, who couldn't help her venom, said out loud in front of the owners and ringside..."Why did THEY have to enter, I hate their dogs, they are so ugly" Keep in mind this was a VERY nice group of german dog owners and enthusiasts...THAT HELPED BUILD THAT MAJOR and were happy and thrilled to be there. I remember having the privlege of talking with many, and groomed their gorgeous dogs for them...and enjoyed the interaction...just because it was a great sharing of info. Now, seriously, I don't think that either side is right in the opinions of this dog or that dog ONLY....but each is entitled ...if we want to be angry about how our breed is represented...how about the way newcomers are treated by some in our club? I can think of one instance very recently, here locally. Nasty. Interestingly the WDA, the USA keeps having a huge rise in interest, and when you look at the ringside there are young couples, families and children, ready to take their place . Funny, I don't see that at ANY show of ours.....now why is that? So before we cast dispersions on "them" , we need to pay closer attention to our own conduct. JMHO Kathy http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com~or~ http://www.germanshepherdssocal.com PUP-DATED: JUNE 14, 2009 Home of: CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs CH. Victory's Leviathan CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle WE SUPPORT DRUG AND DYE TESTING On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:24 PM, <ELG440@xxxxxxx> wrote: > In a message dated 8/6/2009 9:17:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx writes: > I don't see how anyone representing our country and our colors in a > positive > way, > could NOT be a good thing. Please explain this concept to me? > > > > Picture this. > > A team of German shepherds appears at the World Union. They wear outfits > that say GSDCA-WDA and are in red white and blue. > > When asked, they make sure to deride the American dogs, and brag that they > have only dogs bred in Germany to use to compete. They insist the reason > is that we in America breed a dog too soft, with no prey drive, and poor > temperament. It is the WDA that has the only valuable dogs, the GSDCA is > used > to support that opinion, and are stupid enough to let them support our > breed. On top of that, we spend money to send them there to denigrate the > American dog. > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================