In a message dated 1/14/2010 11:05:15 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, vprezhmf@xxxxxxx writes: We all know it is NOT a separate breed,It is simply a disqualification for a GSD As was the first German shepherd, a combination of two other dogs. Most members over 50 will agree with Helen. Most under 40 will agree that if someone wants to do something different with our breed, they should. There is a good argument to allow them to become a separate breed or a different color in our breed. To argue it is a fault is something we decided, not something in the original standard. It may be a good time to consider the issue. There are, however, very strong opinions on both sides,and both valid. Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================