Sometimes looking at a photograph will give an individual a few insights into why a breeder may have selected a bitch to be included in a planned breeding program. But, mostly.....................it won't. Because a photograph will not tell the tale. Looking at a photograph may show the viewer the phenotype, but *cannot*, in any way, indicate the genotype and/or the ability to replicate the animals in the pedigree when bred. So........a good bitch needs to come from a long line of dams in her pedigree which are prolific, nurturing, dedicated to the whelps, and willing, even after the pups are weaned. Her pedigree should indicate a minimum number of health issues. She needs to be able to cover the ground with a "flying trot". And, importantly, she needs to be out a strong male producing line. Bitches who show breeding potential have the afore mentioned qualities. They need not be, necessarily, a "star" show quality bitch. And, as with all breedings, the "proof is in the pudding", ............not the picture !!! And............I couldn't resist the opportunity to remark, once more......... "Like begets Like"......... Selection.....Selection.......Selection. Jane Kerner ----- Original Message ----- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx To: uwish@xxxxxxxxxx ; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 8:02 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Brood Bitch or a Pet?! In a message dated 8/11/2006 7:55:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, uwish@xxxxxxxxxx writes: How does a breeder determine which of his bitch puppies will be sold as a brood bitch or a pet? I've seen pictures of brood bitches that look like pets. So what's the difference? Is it one outstanding quality that the brood bitch has that makes a breeder decide to use her for their breeding program? And how about that pet.......could she not also produce well coming from the same bloodlines? Best wishes, Barbara I'm thinking and I can't come up with anybody who sells a puppy as a potential brood bitch. Maybe the exception would be one from a super pedigree that was a coat and a fellow breeder wanted it for their program, but that's about it. Seems to me, people are keeping fewer dogs, so the ones they'll keep are the potential in the ring AND in the whelping box. You ask "could the pet produce well coming from the same bloodlines?". Certainly, but if there is a wide range of quality in the litter, the good one could also produce a lot of pets. You say you see a lot of pictures of brood bitches that look like pets. Part of this could be that people buy a bitch for show with high expectations and when she doesn't turn out, they are advised "take her home and breed her". Once in a while, they may get lucky. Kathy member GSDCA, DVGSDC three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================