[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breeding--KNOW YOUR PEDIGREES
- From: Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: gsdhallmark@xxxxxxx, inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:08:22 -0800 (PST)
Right. I think this should be published in the Review.
Zoa
Dr. Zoa Rockenstein
www.riverrockshepherds.com
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From: EDEN HALL <gsdhallmark@xxxxxxx>
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breeding--KNOW YOUR PEDIGREES
Kathaleen is a breeder of GSD's. I don't know how it could have been said
better.
JimHallmark German Shepherds Top American And German Lines
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To: zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re:
Breeding--KNOW YOUR PEDIGREES> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:19:45 -0800> > It's
always a good place to start with your bitch. You have to be brutally> honest
in evaluating your bitch -- take your feelings out of the equation,> take her
show record out of the equation - review her hip/elbow & health> information
and then look at the bitch as an individual with nothing other> than her
temperament, motion, structure, and overall breed type - compare it> to what
the standard says is correct, even if you don't like it. > > 1) What
qualities/faults does she bring to the equation?> 2) What would you like to
change/correct in your bitch in the resulting> puppies?> 3) If she has been
bred before, what did you try to correct and what were> the results?
Where you happy with
the overall resulting quality of the> litter? If you haven't bred her before,
what are her parents/grandparents> known to produce both good and bad? If
known, what were your bitch's> littermates like? (this is important) What are
the health and longevity> strength/weaknesses behind her? > 4) After you have
evaluated all these items when it comes to her, as an> individual, now look at
her pedigree -- what strengths and weaknesses can> you determine from it? What
incidence of missing teeth, bad bites, down> ears, long coats, monorchids,
hearts, hips/elbows, bloat, and torsion are> there in the immediate 3
generations? Is she linebred? How heavily> (sometimes you have to go back past
4 generations, ie a dog who's linebred> on Dog A (5,4,6,5,6,5 - 5,5,4,5,6,5)
could be still considered heavily> linebred)? Is there a portion of her
pedigree that you prefer the dogs in?> With your brutally honest evaluation of
her as an individual, knowing her> strengths,
weaknesses and areas you'
d like to hopefully improve on in the> resulting puppies -- look at the
pedigree and see if she is typical of one> side of the pedigree or the other? >
> Now looking at the results of those questions -- this should give you a>
direction as to where to start looking. If you have the ideas of what you> want
to change in your bitch, start looking first at dogs who 1) Compensate> toward
correct in these items and remember they may or may not themselves be> entirely
correct themselves, but tend to produce it; 2) After you've> narrowed it down
to a few dogs who look like they fit the bill, answer> questions 1-4 for the
dog also; Be especially cognizant of the pedigree and> puppies produced so far.
Don't consider your feelings in relation to the> dog. Don't consider titles the
dog has achieved, these are fluff used to> sell resulting puppies, not produce
a quality litter. The only things other> than how the dog himself can help you
compensate for your bitch to
consider> are his hip
/elbow/health information, how the pedigree looks in comparison> to your bitch,
what the dog has produced that you like. When looking at his> puppies, you
should try to determine what the bitches he was bred to brought> to the table
and what their pedigrees are as well.> > Talk to the stud dog owners about
their dog, and talk to other people who've> bred their bitches to the dog.
Another thing that should be considered in> the "compensation" theory,
sometimes breeding a correct bitch to an extreme> (in some cases not correct)
dog is beneficial to bring back angulation, and> vice versa. Also it is
important to note there is a theory, that if left to> Nature's devices, dogs
would revert to look more like wild canines -- tall> on leg, straight in
angulation -- that as breeders we have to utilize some> extremes to keep that
type which is recessive in nature.> > I agree with Jamie though -- once you've
done all this evaluation,> discussion and research, don't
over think it. If yo
u listen to your gut> instinct/intuition you should make a sound choice.
However, if it doesn't> work out, don't beat yourself up; breeding dogs is the
biggest gambling game> anyone has ever been involved in. Imagine the numbers of
dice you're> rolling at once, and then remember no matter how much you plan, no
matter> how good it looks on paper, no matter how "it should have worked" ==>
sometimes it just doesn't. Try again. If you have some luck going your way,>
your research will pay off with a litter of healthy, quality pups with maybe> a
few "stars" in it.> > Kathaleen> >
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