[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breeding--KNOW YOUR PEDIGREES
- From: Kelly Salava <kellysalava@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Show List <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:28:02 -0600
I agree with Mike...Great post Kathaleen! First and foremost you need to look
at the bitch. I think we need to be more critical of our own animals, not just
others. And really, winning isn't everything. Great dogs can lose and poor
dogs can win. Enough with this "kennel blindness" thing.
Kelly
> ------------------------------> > Msg: #6 in digest> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008
> 19:31:28 +0000 (UTC)> From: Lindenhill German Shepherds
> <lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: Re: Breeding--KNOW YOUR PEDIGREES> >
> Awesome, a lot of effort went into this email folks - please save it for
> future reference when you do your first, or even your 100th litter. > > M >
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathaleen Strong"
> <inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx,
> showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:19:45 PM GMT
> -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breeding--KNOW YOUR
> PEDIGREES > > It's always a good place to start with your bitch. Â You have
> to be brutally > honest in evaluating your bitch -- take your feelings out of
> the equation, > take her show record out of the equation - review her
> hip/elbow & health > information and then look at the bitch as an individual
> with nothing other > than her temperament, motion, structure, and overall
> breed type - compare it > to what the standard says is correct, even if you
> don't like it. > > 1) What qualities/faults does she bring to the equation? >
> 2) What would you like to change/correct in your bitch in the resulting >
> puppies? > 3) If she has been bred before, what did you try to correct and
> what were > the results? Â Where you happy with the overall resulting quality
> of the > litter? Â If you haven't bred her before, what are her
> parents/grandparents > known to produce both good and bad? If known, what
> were your bitch's > littermates like? (this is important) Â What are the
> health and longevity > strength/weaknesses behind her? Â Â > 4) After you
> have evaluated all these items when it comes to her, as an > individual, now
> look at her pedigree -- what strengths and weaknesses can > you determine
> from it? Â What incidence of missing teeth, bad bites, down > ears, long
> coats, monorchids, hearts, hips/elbows, bloat, and torsion are > there in the
> immediate 3 generations? Â Is she linebred? Â How heavily > (sometimes you
> have to go back past 4 generations, ie a dog who's linebred > on Dog A
> (5,4,6,5,6,5 - 5,5,4,5,6,5) could be still considered heavily > linebred)? Â
> Is there a portion of her pedigree that you prefer the dogs in? > With your
> brutally honest evaluation of her as an individual, knowing her > strengths,
> weaknesses and areas you'd like to hopefully improve on in the > resulting
> puppies -- look at the pedigree and see if she is typical of one > side of
> the pedigree or the other? Â > > Now looking at the results of those
> questions -- this should give you a > direction as to where to start
> looking.        If you have the ideas of what you > want to change
> in your bitch, start looking first at dogs who 1) Compensate > toward correct
> in these items and remember they may or may not themselves be > entirely
> correct themselves, but tend to produce it; 2) After you've > narrowed it
> down to a few dogs who look like they fit the bill, answer > questions 1-4
> for the dog also; Be especially cognizant of the pedigree and > puppies
> produced so far. Â Don't consider your feelings in relation to the > dog. Â
> Don't consider titles the dog has achieved, these are fluff used to > sell
> resulting puppies, not produce a quality litter. Â The only things other >
> than how the dog himself can help you compensate for your bitch to consider >
> are his hip/elbow/health information, how the pedigree looks in comparison >
> to your bitch, what the dog has produced that you like. Â When looking at his
> > puppies, you should try to determine what the bitches he was bred to
> brought > to the table and what their pedigrees are as well. > > Talk to the
> stud dog owners about their dog, and talk to other people who've > bred their
> bitches to the dog. Â Another thing that should be considered in > the
> "compensation" theory, sometimes breeding a correct bitch to an extreme > (in
> some cases not correct) dog is beneficial to bring back angulation, and >
> vice versa. Â Also it is important to note there is a theory, that if left to
> > Nature's devices, dogs would revert to look more like wild canines -- tall
> > on leg, straight in angulation -- that as breeders we have to utilize some
> > extremes to keep that type which is recessive in nature. > > I agree with
> Jamie though -- once you've done all this evaluation, > discussion and
> research, don't over think it. Â If you listen to your gut >
> instinct/intuition you should make a sound choice. Â However, if it doesn't >
> work out, don't beat yourself up; breeding dogs is the biggest gambling game
> > anyone has ever been involved in. Â Imagine the numbers of dice you're >
> rolling at once, and then remember no matter how much you plan, no matter >
> how good it looks on paper, no matter how "it should have worked" == >
> sometimes it just doesn't. Â Try again. If you have some luck going your way,
> > your research will pay off with a litter of healthy, quality pups with
> maybe > a few "stars" in it. > > Kathaleen
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