In a message dated 2/8/09 12:58:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx writes: > She > has tried manually guiding the stud, but he loses interest if she tries to > manipulate him. Any suggestions for her? > manipulate the bitch instead. tell your friend that, if she puts her left hand (flat) under the bitch's belly, with her fingers pointed toward her butt, she can literally move the vulva to meet the male. if he "hits the mark" as you put it <G>, have your friend use her other hand to put gentle pressure on his butt. this way, even if it's an outside tie, she can hold them together. diane Diane Silver-Strasser Silstra German Shepherds<BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1218550342x1201216770/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668 072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=febemailfooterNO62)</HTML> ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================