Like you Kay, we bred our AOE Sel. Exc. Utopia's Cliche at almost 5 yrs old. She had a beautiful litter of 8, bred her again her next season and had a litter of 10. She was the best mother to her puppies that we ever had. We spayed her at 7yrs old. and she was 12 when she died. Gary Szymczak _www.pagairsgsd.com_ (http://www.pagairsgsd.com) Breeder of Merit In a message dated 9/12/2013 12:55:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, showgsd@xxxxxxx writes: My first champion and foundation birch was not bred until she was 4 1/2. I was busy showing her in conformation and obedience. She had 6 pups and was an easy whelper and great mother. After a year I bred her at 5 1/2 and again whelped 5 pups easily. She then got her UD at age 7+. Think it is important to look at the bitches dam and see if she was an easy whelper and the over all health/stamina of the bitch that is being bred. Kay Springer Sent from my Kindle Fire Sarah Minsk <gsdworkingline@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >Does anyone have experience breeding a maiden bitch at age 4? I am on the fence regarding breeding my bitch at 3 or 4. She is a working/performance dog and even though she has titles now, I would like to put some more training into her and get a few more before breeding her. However, I didn't know if 4 would be too late to have a first litter..... > >Thank you, >Sarah Minsk============================================================================ >POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > >Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. > >ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > >For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx > >VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html >NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ >=========================================================================== = ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================