Amen Ruth.......I'm old school....I don't help my males breed, either they can or they don't get to breed....when I had protection dogs years ago I'd breed my males as early as 8 or 9 months........with the now common practice of AI due to shipping semen all over the country......don't know if this will help or hurt in the future....I just know all my AI experiences have never ever produced a live healthy litter....gave my dog's sperm away.....Blumenjunge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Scheubler" <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx> To: "DaList" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:45:10 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breeding issues, overcoming the problems. My theory with all breeding stock (livestock included) is that if it does not have a strong libido, can't breed naturally, can't produce sound healthy offspring then it does not belong in a breeding program. So the best looking show dog that does not want to breed/is unable to breed should not be bred. The quickest way to eliminate a species/breed is to promote animals with reproductive issues. Ruth ________________________________  From: "InquestGSD@xxxxxxx" <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 3:56 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Breeding issues, overcoming the problems.  Those who attended the after show program at the VA shows last week heard� about the problems, and unfortunately it seems to be becoming a real problem,� of� breeding in the GSD breed. From males that wont breed naturally, to bitches who, regardless of� progesterone and smear results, simply wont swell and cant be bred other than� artificially, to breeders who have absolutely no luck with Artificial� Insemination. I am curious to hear how many are experiencing this. According to Helen� Gleason, a top reproductive specialist told her that well over 70% of the� breeding stock is suffering from one issue or the other. 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