interesting thread. got me out of lurking lol breeding a teenager (18 months old,) versus breeding every season til 10, one has nothing to do with the other, IMO. a dog is considered by some to be a "puppy" til 2, right? so what is 1 1/2 yrs considered? yeah an honest heart knows their "stuff" what is the reason to breed a dog prior to 2 where it cant wait until 6 months later? just totally out of curiosity what is the benefit to breeding the female prior to getting a OFA rating (for those that swear on OFA i for one do not), however, at least we have the "a" stamp program for over 12 months. like everything else we do as breeders its a personal choice, what we feed, how we train, if we breed without titling, if we breed without hips and elbows... its none of anyones business actually :) however, we are all supposed to be in this together, being honest out there to each other with health and character issues. i have never done it.... thought about it, but didn't have the nerve as i lost a very young dog once and would like to make sure my dogs live old enough to know what health issues are going on :) i have two littermates that are almost at their next title and technically we who follow the SV way, we are not supposed to breed those dogs until their titled, but due to the fact i spent THOUSANDS on a female who had repro issues, i would like to breed them before i continue going through the high expense of the schutzhund titles to make sure they can conceive :) so shoot me... i am may be no better than someone who breeds prior to 2 yrs old.. i am not crazy about the idea because unless you are out there working your dog in a field that really proves sound temperament for breeding animals... under 2 we dont see them going through "maturity" follow me? some females get funky after their first heat season, some get nasty as they mature and that's genetics, so maturity is when... some might ask... depends on the dog. i guess i would wait for my own reasons, but wouldn't judge someone and hang em for doing it :) Oh and for the breeding every heat season tl 10 i dont think you can do that, can you? SV we can only have 8 litters with a female :) not sure if AKC regulates here. Dawnmarie In a message dated 9/10/2008 1:19:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, willowlakegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Werner which is worse....18 months or breed every season till then 10 ????? Many do this and think nothing of it... In a message dated 9/9/2008 6:59:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dan-ann@xxxxxxxx writes: I've bred a couple bitches at 18 months - had great success. They were big mature girls. Actually easier then breeding older bitches for the first time. Think you have to know your animal. Sally In a message dated 9/9/2008 3:09:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, .net writes: From: "Gail BAUMAN" <gailbauman1@xxxxxxx> > Someone I've been conversing with is looking to breed their bitch before age 2 > b/c they think it will help the bitch mature - we're talking between 16-18 > months - I know this has been done in days past, but is this still something > people do? **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================