The number one stud dog came from a Houston daughter bred to Gotti. Gotti had one elbow that would not certify. From that progeny came a very high percentage of good hips and elbows. I doubt I would breed to an animal with both bad hips and bad elbows, but I consider the radiographs but one factor to consider in breeding. I would breed to either Goti or Houston in a minute. Evan L. Ginsburg gsyrfund.com Asgard German Shepherds _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Where Type Movement and Temperament come together In a message dated 10/31/13 7:25:19 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bnbgsds2000@xxxxxxxxx writes: There are some who have said that FV/MV3XSel(2@#2)Ch.Houston of Wildwood ROM was one of the best dogs there was. He also wouldn't OFA hips, yet he produced a good number of dogs with good and /or certified hips ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================