People want to know why entries are down, why attendance is down? When is he last time that the MAJORITY of people sat GLUED watching the dogs at dog how and were "OH MY GOD I HAVE GOOSEBUMPS!!! LOOK AT THAT DOG!!" about the ame dogs in classes deep in quality? We have few *truly* excellent dogs at hows anymore, when it used to be the majority were very good. Kathaleen, You are definately right on in the above statement. I remember going to shows and the excitment and goosebumps when two or three or more outstanding quality dogs were battling it out for 1st place and the judge kept working them and working them waiting and the excitement escalated at ringside, people were stomping, clamping yelling..... how many of those shows have we attended lately. How many shows have you gone to and wish you owned the winners because they truly excited you..... its something to think about -----Original Message----- From: Kathaleen Strong <inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx; rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx; 'Hickoryhill' <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2010 12:56 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Breeding Dogs is an Artform, not a Science Breeding quality dogs is an **ART** tempered with a lot of RESEARCH (not cientific, historical), some logic and a lot of common sense free of motion and thoughts of money. Too many people nowadays are taking that which requires those things in hose proportions and OVER-THINKING the situation and forgetting this is not bout numbers, it's about being a living breathing form of art. If you uestion someone's belief that a trait like bad backs or bad fronts (two of he most difficult traits to keep and the hardest to get back when you lose hem), then you have been spending too much time either getting lost in the etails or listening to the self-styled "guru's" of the style of dog we see ver and over again, with incorrect shoulders, croups and middle-pieces eing held together by a handler and a leash. Showing, breeding, and watching dog shows has always been for those true, ndependent dog people --- a visceral experience with instinctual responses nd a level of electrical enjoyment. A body response to the sight of a eautiful living piece of artwork which when the body responds favorably, he brain pays attention and looks at the reasons why that gorgeous dog is unctioning as the standard describes. Over and over again, I hear from eople who have gone to big shows where the quality used to be deep and say, yeah, the entry was nice. There were a couple of good ones, but you know, was bored... nothing really got my heart pumping." People want to know why entries are down, why attendance is down? When is he last time that the MAJORITY of people sat GLUED watching the dogs at dog how and were "OH MY GOD I HAVE GOOSEBUMPS!!! LOOK AT THAT DOG!!" about the ame dogs in classes deep in quality? We have few *truly* excellent dogs at hows anymore, when it used to be the majority were very good. Most shows ou go to now have people either zonked out, BSing with about the weather, ports or the price of tea in china instead of the dogs, or griping about ow long the show seems to be taking or the fact we have 2 shows in one day. oes anyone remember that shows used to start at the strike of 8am and OFTEN eren't over until 6pm, with few breaks. You didn't see what you see now utside the ring -- you saw, people enthralled and enthused by the dogs IN he ring. True, independent dog breeders who know that Breeding quality dogs is an rtform has little to do with Scientific Tests and X-rays or what their ocal "Heffe" told them is a good dog to breed to or which puppy is the one hat they should keep. But there's another problem -- how many people reeding dogs are truly, independently knowledgeable enough to even be reeding? How many aren't relying upon the dictates of their handler or friends" to decide Who to breed which bitch to and which puppy should be hown from the resulting litters? If we had more independent breeders, we ouldn't have nearly the types of dogs we have now in the ring, resulting rom dogs who wouldn't have gotten a sniff at a purple ribbon in the ring 15 ears ago, let alone a sniff of a bitch to breed to or the designation of eing a "top producer". But in the end.. it's about learning that the standard is the blueprint, t's the artiste breeder who turns it into a living form. The artform of reeding dogs requires that specific traits are chosen over other traits hich if left to nature's devices, the dogs would not necessarily exhibit. o, when people question statements like, "why breed to an extreme, that's ot what the book says" -- in practical breeding, dogs who have traits which re "extreme" (as compared to what is the norm), not every puppy will xhibit that trait, but the idea is that enough of them will exhibit the ore "extreme" trait you were looking to incorporate in your breeding rogram. If the true, independent artful breeder does not make selections based upon ncorporating some extreme (extreme does not mean only rear angulation) as ompared to the norm, they will eventually end up with mediocrity. election and the compensation theory is the key. Certainly you do not reed to a dog only because they are "extreme" in the trait your want to ncorporate into your program, or correct on your bitch, they should also xhibit a level of correctness in the other areas. Kathaleen =========================================================================== OST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its dministrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any ost. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER F ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL ARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A IOLATION OF LAW. 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