Every breeder should stand behind their puppies - and in some states there are puppy lemon laws to help you decide to do the right thing . . The breeder should contact the owner of the dog and see what they want to do. then proceed accordingly . . . .BUT I went back and read 4 or 5 articles about EPI - and not one article stated that this was definitely a  hereditary problem - they said because of the number of cases in GSD that there might be a hereditary factor . . . .But even if it has a hereditary cause, does it take one or two parents to produce the problem?  Before we go after someone to pull their GV from breeding - a GV gets numerous breeding's - if he is going to produce a problem - it will probably show up in several litters.  Since this problem shows up in young dogs primarily (per the articles I read) I would guess that the pups have to get to 18 months before the problem is diagnosed.   The GV by that time has produced many litters - and I can bet that if it is a common problem - we would of heard about it - People are always ready to spread that sort of word around.  Barb  -----Original Message----- From: Amy Greenhut <genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: wernersommers@xxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2009 12:20 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breeders responsibility pup has EPI Werner......yes I do believe that the breeder is responsible=2 0for this dog. I ave an EPI dog and they are expensive to keep. At the least I think that the eople should either be offered some monetary compensation to help pay for the edication that dog will need for the rest of it's life this or offered another uppy. Nichole had nine puppies in her litter. At three years old she was iagnosed with EPI. I proceeded to call every person who had purchased a puppy rom that litter to tell them about Nichole. Fortunately she was the only one ith EPI in that litter. I was glad that it was the puppy that I kept instead of ne that I sold. I then took the sire and dam OUT of the breeding program. But hat probably is not going to happen with the GV who is the sire of this dog hat you are talking about. But it should. The only way that we as breeders are oing to eliminate this horrible disease is to not breed the animals or their ittermates who have it. When you breed a litter of puppies you have no control over what the genes are going to roduce sometimes. But if you start with healthy genes you have a lot better hance of producing healthy puppies. my Greenhut ustrock German Shepherds en Oak Leopard Tortoises &  Tortoise Rescue ehold The Turtle,  He Makes Progress Only When He Sticks His Neck Out Quote By James B. Conant ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Werner Sommers" <wernersommers@xxxxxxxxx> o: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:04:3 8 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Breeders responsibility pup has EPI ����������� Some time ago a young family came to a club I was there and talked ith them. They where ooking for a GSD puppy. After a few months I recommended a breeder, they got a ery handsome up that they picked out. After a few months the pup was diagnosed with EPI isease, he is now on ed's and doing well. He will however need to take supplements forever. The pup s well bred is sire is a Grand Victor. ������� My question is should the breeder do anything?? 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