[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breeders do sell their good ones
- From: SegerWind@xxxxxxx
- To: denwil2007@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 22:30:23 EDT
I like your post here:)
Steven
SegerWinds
In a message dated 7/9/2010 4:28:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
denwil2007@xxxxxxxxx writes:
So getting good ones, and finishing dogs is about who you know.
When you think about it, you can research all that you want, but would
breeder
from X sell to newbie from Y if you've never heard of him/her?Along would
come
someone less scrupulous, then another newbie has a sad story to tell.
Half of you would have no idea I existed without this list, and if I
called your
house looking for a puppy with no one to vouch for me, it would not have
happen.
I got my dog from a breeder in my club. He watched me for two years, and
he
decided it was time for me to get a show dog, he found one for me, and he
gives
good advice (another shameless plug for the GSDCNO!) Without that
breeder, it
might have been dog #3, 4 or 5 before I got what I wanted. I've already
gone
through a few, looking for a female.
The point is that new folks get all kinds of advice, and it does not
always jibe
with real life. I don't think I would have arrived any faster had I did it
exactly the way the books told me. Stuff happens, or doesn't. The newbie
is a
chance, the dog is a chance. As Jessica pointed out, the only way to get
some
measure of success is to stick with the person.
Denise W.
The Good Ole Boys~Chopper and Chase
http://www.showgermanshepherds.info
for show and performance
(join my site ring-follow the link)
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From: Jessica MacMillan <spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: firethorntemplete@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 12:09:05 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breeders do sell their good ones
Below is my response to Tom - it is a similar response I had to Carol
Moore in
private e-mail..
* But see, that is where the good mentor comes in to play ;-) In our
breed,
newbies CAN and do finish dogs easily. Argus has 8 champions in 7 litters
(with
about 8 more close to finishing). One of those dogs was finished by a
brand new
person with two specialty wins, two more were finished by Junior handlers
- the
bitch with a specialty major and the brother with three majors. Another
bitch
finished, also with a brand new person and has two specialty majors. They
all
had very good mentors who taught them how to condition dogs, suggested
where to
enter and helped them with handling. They can do it and it doesn have to
take
years - all those dogs finished before or around the age of 2 years old.
New people CAN finish dogs easily - maybe not in Shepherds, but then
shepherdom
is a whole different world - which is very unfortunate. Maybe because of
the
difficulty of getting showdogs, and the shows themselves, people not only
get
discouraged, but move on to a different breed.*
Strictly my opinion...
Jessica MacMillan
No Frills Dog Bathing Service & Design
Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com)
& The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC)
Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC
> From: firethorntemplete@xxxxxxxxx
> To: spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx; scharo777@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breeders do sell their good ones
> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 10:56:45 -0500
>
> Jessica -- I heartily and respectfully disagee with your statement that
"
> ...if new people can't finish the dogs, then they aren't show quality to
> begin with." Half and only half of the battle is getting a good one. The
> other half is knowing what to do with it when you get it.
> tom elkins
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jessica MacMillan" <spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <scharo777@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:20 AM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breeders do sell their good ones
>
>
> > The co-ownership contract is with the OPTION to show the dog if the
people
> > decide not to show and it depends on the situation... Most people are
open
> > minded and fortunately, with Dals, they don't have to stay with
handlers,
> > etc... Charlie, the new dog I am starting gets picked up the night
before
> > shows and dropped off Sundays on the way home...
> >
> >
> >
> > I know lots of folks that work by your philosphy and it works good,
but
> > you are also willing to take risks and sell to other people -
therefore
> > keeping people in the sport.
> >
> >
> >
> > And like you, if new people can't finish the dogs, then they aren't
show
> > quality to begin with. Not every dog needs to be a champion.
> >
> > Jessica MacMillan
> > No Frills Dog Bathing Service & Design
> > Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com)
> > & The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC)
> > Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC
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