Yes, breeders do sell their good ones. Sometimes, they even sell their good ones to a newbie... After 45+ years of owning GSD's, I decided to try the show thing. I wanted a male -- just to get my feet wet in showing. Plus, I wasn't sure if I wanted to breed at the time. The first show prospect I bought was a fine dog, but developed serious health problems and died. The second prospect I bought did finish. I went through h#$@ and back to buy the dog that finished... At first, the breeder would not agree to sell him to me, but I didn't give up. I wanted that dog! I was relentless. I called the breeder again and again trying to buy the dog. I knew I was making headway when the breeder began quizzing me. Talk about relentless... He was relentless in his questioning. Besides the usual questions regarding my experience and how the dog was to be kept, I was grilled regarding my knowledge of pedigrees. I was also asked what I knew about showing; who was my mentor(s); who did I know in the Breed; what breeders did I admire and why; what handlers(s) did I intend to use; did I fully realize the expense involved in showing, etc. Perhaps I didn't pass the "test" with flying colors, but I passed. After weeks of badgering the breeder, he sold me the dog outright. I knew the dog was a good prospect when the late Tom Castriota asked if he could condition and train the dog for the National. Along the way, I made some mistakes in managing the dog's show career, but the dog finished. And, I learned from those mistakes. I am eternally grateful to Dennis Mulligan, of Eagle Valley GSD's, for entrusting a newbie with a good one. Dennis showed good faith in me and there was no way I was going to let him down by not finishing the dog. A little advice to newbies... Do your homework BEFORE buying a show prospect. Don't buy a good dog unless you're sure you have the means to finish the dog. And, most of all, don't EVER make a promise to a breeder unless you are pretty darn sure you can live up to that promise. Thanks for letting me share my experience of buying my first show dog. Sorry for blabbering on for so long. Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================