1- Stud fees: do yourselves a favor an poll 10 other breeds for stud fees. What GSD breeders charge is WAY below market. And then everyone wants a deal. A recent finding, Standard Poodle, stud fee $2000, or $1800 plus a pick pup......WTH???? 2-Puppies: Poll the same or 10 other different breeds for puppy prices. We are WAY below market. One of my clients recently purchased his second Goldendoodle for $1800. He paid $1800 for the first one also. Same "breeder". By the way, the second one had been returned to the breeder because it didn't get along with the kids. So she got 2 x $1800 for the same dog. NO PEDIGREE...No guarantees, no health checks, must be neuter (paid by owner) since the breeder doesn't want competition..... WTH??? 3-But.......it is common knowledge that you will pay over $2500 if the pup has a german pedigree, even if the new owners cant read it or understand it, and this dog wont work a day in his life..... WTH???? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Well I can tell you at the prices mentioned above I would be at the Humane Society adopting a pet. Sally www.embroiderybysally.org ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================