In a message dated 12/21/04 9:24:54 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, kurdels@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: When adding German lines to your pedigrees it takes several years of breeding to "maybe" get what you are looking for, you may loose the beautiful American type and movement that we all look and breed for... I remember when Kurt and Adelle did the cross breeding, and I talked to Adelle at the time. She told me she intended to take a bitch from that breeding, breed it back to top American lines, hold out a bitch from that litter, to breed back to an American line, then keep the best bitch to breed to the best American bred dog, and hope to get a superstar. I never did comment of that approach. But, now they have their superstar, and she is just great. I don't know if there is any German in her, I haven't been able to get a long enough pedigree to find out. It you have to work that hard to breed away from what you are doing, I suspect it might be better to not do it in the first place. I see nothing wrong with combining lines, countries, or even species. All you need do is decide what you are trying to get, and then go for it. By the way, I am not sure combining species is legal outside Alabama. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================