[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breed Standard
- From: Sara Minsk <ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx>
- To: Pat Evans <patsgsdpups@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:55:04 -0500
I might add...of course, I hope my bitch turns out breedworthy (and passes
health clearances). Everyone starts somewhere and, of course, you seek to
improve upon what you have. But, I am giving fair warning to the owner of
Anne-Isles Promise Keeper that I may stalk them!! hehehe
Sara
On Dec 9, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Pat Evans wrote:
> I am the very rare newbie. And I know it. Take it one step at a time. And
> know that everyone sees things (dogs) with their own eyes. If you purchased
> your pup because you wanted a great GSD - I suspect you got that. If you
> purchased his to be a top notch show dog-that's hard to do! When they come
> out of mama-wet-you can see form. You can put them in he show ring 2 years
> later-and they can hate it.
>
> It took a year of looking to find my foundation bitch. Lots of learning and
> listening along the way. Had I not listened to mentors I'd have screwed up!
>
> Hang in there. It's a super breed and my take on those idiots bad mouthing
> GSD's is they are either jealous or stupid. I'll be nice-they need more
> special high intensity training
> Pat Evans
>
> On Dec 9, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Sara Minsk <ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Pat! Nice story and congrats on having such an accomplished dog!!!!
>> I don't think I am a lucky newbie...dang!!! Oh, well!!!
>>
>> I can dream right!!!!! :-) :-)
>>
>> Sara
>> On Dec 9, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Pat Evans wrote:
>>
>>> Sara,
>>> I'm a newbie too-but a lucky one! I've had German Shepherds for 8 years,
>>> got into showing by accident. My first show pup was an extremely sweet and
>>> special one. If you looked at the breed standard - he didn't quite "fit".
>>> He was longer than a freight train-but everything else was super. He didn't
>>> have a name handler. Generally jr handlers-that we're very talented - and
>>> finally Ross Farrell started handling him. Spunky became 8X BISS Sel Ch
>>> Konigin's Phantom of the Opera. I was extremely lucky When he was
>>> shown-he was the best dog on that particular day! I now have his son, and
>>> grandsons. His son is Ch Konigin's Storms A' Brewing.
>>>
>>> So-a newbie thats blessed with some sp
>>>
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>>> On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Sara Minsk <ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Zoe and Stormy! I am trying here!!
>>>>
>>>> I hear you but I am still trying to understand........ :-(
>>>>
>>>> If there is one unchanging breed standard (that has always existed) than
>>>> why does the breed look different in the show ring at different points in
>>>> time (throughout the years)? Wouldn't the GSD look the same now as in the
>>>> 1960's? If there is one standard that does not change than why have the
>>>> dogs changed throughout history?
>>>>
>>>> Does that mean the breed standard has gone through several revisions (like
>>>> a rulebook)?
>>>>
>>>> Sara
>>>> On Dec 9, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Doc Zoe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There is only one BReed standard for the GSD, which is interpreted
>>>>> different (called style) by
>>>>> whatever group is in at the SV that year or the breeders at AKC/CKC
>>>>>
>>>>> The Breed ring, whether German or American is used to determine whether a
>>>>> dog/bitch is within
>>>>> the standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> A dog can be within the standard and not finish, or do well in the ring.
>>>>> A ribbon in an adult class
>>>>> at AKC/CKC shows shows that the dog is within the Breed standard. A
>>>>> rating at a German
>>>>> style show (the higher the better the dog is within the standard) shows
>>>>> that a an animal is within
>>>>> the standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> The animal can be within the standard, but have some minor faults and not
>>>>> do well in any show
>>>>> ring
>>>>>
>>>>> To me a pet is any animal that is loved - whether it is within the
>>>>> standard or not
>>>>>
>>>>> The breed standard and showing in cofrmation to prove it go hand in hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> A dog shown in performance shows mind - it does not have to be within the
>>>>> breed standard to
>>>>> work. However, those dogs bred to the whatever style of the standard
>>>>> have better form and
>>>>> hence better function.
>>>>>
>>>>> REgina's dogs are fantastic working animals. There are two styles of
>>>>> German imports -
>>>>> showlines which put more emphasis on the breed standard, and working
>>>>> lines which put more
>>>>> emphasis on the mind than the body. Both are usually within the
>>>>> standard, but are different
>>>>> styles, interpretations, of the GSD.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am happy we have the right to select the style that we want that meets
>>>>> are needs and likes
>>>>> and dislikes.
>>>>>
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