Gave last Saturday in Toronto group 1 in working group to a beautiful Rottweiler from Open class over some of the best working dogs in Canada. First time shown in Canada. He lives in Wrightsville, Pa. Not even an Am. Ch. yet. Michel in Montreal -----Message d'origine----- De : showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]De la part de LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx Envoyé : 27 novembre 2006 19:53 À : louroshepherds@xxxxxxxxx; pruett@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Objet : [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Bred-by.... In a message dated 11/27/2006 12:43:31 PM Central Standard Time, louroshepherds@xxxxxxxxx writes: I was under the impression that all classes are to be considered for the points by the judges. Isn't it a fact that winners dog and winners bitch or best of breed are supposed to be the dog or bitch that is judged the closes to the standard by the judge that day no matter what class shown in? There are judges that do that and I would hope all judges did considered the winners from all the classes. I did have a bitch that I bred and owned that won a 4 point major from the novice class so i know it happens. Louie **************************************************************************** ** **************** Totally agree but I see some judges that think BOB is really Best of Champions because they would never put a class animal breed over the Champions. BOB to me is exactly that. I just judged a show where I put up a 12/18 bitch up (not GSD) for Winners. In my opinion in BOB after giving her owner a few lessons <G> she was the best so I gave her BOB over the 7 specials. Poor lady ask me when I pointed to her, What did I just do? Had she performed in the group I probably would have placed her but she did not perform well. Lee Brown ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================