In a message dated 11/28/2006 5:48:57 PM Central Standard Time, amidon@xxxxxxxxx writes: If this is true why send it to the list so many are thinking of getting out as it is..No Judge should ask the stewarts what the points were or any thing..The Judge should know the procedure..For the many problems with Judging there are good Judges so I would move on to another Judge..barbara ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------- Yes Barbara it is true....and yes no judge should do this ...I have seen it done on several occasions asking what the pts. are. And I've heard people talking loud enough so the judge hears what the pts are...it happens. Yes, there are alot of people thinking about getting out...and I feel they have valid arguments as to what goes on in the show ring today. Patty Szymczak ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================