[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Bracket Formula/least puppy, hodge-podge
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- Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:28:22 -0400 (EDT)
Agree.
Furthermore, I want dogs/bitches from "cookie cutter" litters. Line breed
on those and they will breed "true". I have passed on litters when the
litters were a hodge-podge because, even though you might pick the best
puppy, (and it might be a heck of a dog in the ring), it will produce
hodge-podge.
I was once told the litter is only as good as the least puppy...and BOY is
that true because if you keep a dog back from that litter "least puppy"
will revisit you again and again in the whelping box.
"Least puppy" by the way could be structural or it could be health or
temperament....
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/
In a message dated 7/24/2014 7:16:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Strongly disagree, the first 3 generations are most important, as often
animals produce traits like their grandparents and not the immediate parents.
People who do protection work are not as interested in preserving
structural traits that can be lost in one misstep breeding. If it were truly
this
simple as your "mentor" states then an outstanding dog, bred to an
outstanding bitch would always yield outstanding progeny, I think we all know
this
is not the case. On one hand we have the "oversimplification" of dog
breeding, which was vocalized by your mentor and which usually doesn't produce
desired results, and on the other hand we have those who may know the top
winners, but lack the study habits or simply don't have the knack to know the
difference between "winners" and producers". The later breeders, if you want
to call them that are easily duped by big win records beaucoup progeny
being shown, yet they pay very little attention to the phenotype of the
progeny, they simply see numbers, and numbers in their minds equal
"producers. Back when I started in the breed, (boy do I sound old) we studied
pedigrees, we ferreted out who the real producers were, and we paid attention
to the progeny phenotype. I didn't have a mentor, so I had to rely on my
powers of observation and studying bloodlines, and what lines seem to work
well together. so what I state above is not conjecture, but actual breeding
principles that we applied in our own breeding program. I think this
principles served us pretty well! Christine
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On Wed, 7/23/14, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Bracket Formula
To: dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2014, 7:44 PM
My mentor in protection
dogs once told me that the most important dogs in a
puppy's pedigree are the dam and the
sire! Duh! Simple but true
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ]
Bracket Formula
Michelle
Graham _vicisheps@charter.net_
(mailto:vicisheps@xxxxxxxxxxx)
writes;
HI...OK I am
thinking about doing a breeding based on Bracket
Formula...however it would be going twice the
2/3 formula...both on
bitch side and on
sires...is that too close &/or would I be defeating
the purpose of doing it in the first
place...just curious if anyone had
done
it before and would do it again.
Thanks
Michelle
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I answer;
The things you have
to remember about these formulas is that they are a
tool for the toolchest not the answer to
everything. And that it is
important
you use these formulas on dogs known to you for maximum
success.
One formula I use
is the X Chromosome factor or Motherlines. I am very
happy so far using this as a good tool.
There is a lot more to it but If you are
interested here is a starter
course on
the use of motherlines.
http://www.westwindgsps.com/motherlines.htm
Lissa
soilentgrn@xxxxxxx
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